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Ghosts, Murder Mysteries & Blood Bags: A Conversation with Bo Counts
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Settle in as we unwrap a Halloween treat in conversation with Bo Counts, as the mastermind behind Nightmare on Block Street, a Halloween pop-up at Pinpoint Bar in Fayetteville. Bo is a champion of the arts and a trailblazer in Northwest Arkansas's creative scene. He shares the exhilarating story of his three-year journey bringing Pinpoint Bar to life, a ride filled with ups, downs, and plenty of learnings. His vibrant energy and open-mindedness towards new experiences will leave you captivated.
This episode also peels back the layers on a more personal side of Bo. We reveal his battle with social anxiety - a challenge that has been both a hindrance and a surprising asset to his entrepreneurial spirit. His story showcases how creativity can be a powerful tool in overcoming such obstacles. Also discover how Bo has been stirring the pot in the Northwest Arkansas film industry since 2005 with his podcast, The Drive-In Speaker Rocks. This episode is a fascinating exploration of art, entrepreneurship, and personal growth. So, buckle up and get ready to be inspired!
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Halloween and Life in Arkansas
Speaker 1Welcome to the People of Northwest Arkansas podcast . I'm Danielle Shom and we are thrilled about our guests today .
Speaker 2And I'm Danielle Keller . Today we are talking about all things spooky , chilling encounters , parties and why you need to dress up for Halloween .
Speaker 1Yeah , I'm thinking that I should dress up this year . I wasn't sure if I was going to , but I think it'd be a lot more fun if I did .
Speaker 2I'm so excited about your potential costume too . Yeah , because we are obsessed with Halloween . Yeah , I was okay .
Speaker 1Have you seen the viral Britney Spears clip with the knives ? I was kind of thinking about dressing up like her .
Speaker 2Do it .
Speaker 1Yes , okay , but let's go ahead and introduce our guests . Yeah , all right , let's introduce .
Speaker 2Today we have Bo Counts on the show . Bo is the founder and owner of Pinpoint Bar in Fayetteville , which hosts the Nightmare on Block Street .
Speaker 1Yeah , and you're not only Halloween enthusiasts , you have a podcast . You also what else ? Art enthusiasts . I mean , there's so many things .
Speaker 3Do you need a list ? You're kind of like the jack of all trade , I do . Oh , my God .
Speaker 1Give me the list , give me the list .
Speaker 3So how long is this podcast ? No , so yeah , you know , I have the bar , I have Pinpoint and I have a podcast I've been doing since 2005 called the Drive-In Speaker Rocks . It started as a newspaper article , turned blog , turned radio show , turned Vine Periscope Stream , turned podcast , turned live stream . It's a whole thing .
Speaker 3Like technology has really evolved . I co-host later with Jason Sewell , with Jason Sewell on KNWA , fox 24 . Been doing that . We're on season nine of that right now . Been doing that for a while . But yeah , in the art world I was the founder and ran Art Amiss , which is one of Northwest Arkansas's first arts nonprofits . I did that for many , many years until the art scene just got so big and so crazy . It was like you know what . I think I'm going to take a little break from this because it just got so cutthroat and I decided to step back . But yeah , and you know , I worked in movies . I've worked in films . You know I was a field producer for Discovery Channel for five years and yeah , I've just done a lot of things . I really influenced one of the film industry here in Northwest Arkansas , helping that get built up .
Speaker 3My friends at Prisma and Red Barn Studios and then also Rock Hill Studios . Just yeah , just always doing things in the creative economy . Here I'm on the board for the Downtown Fable Coalition . I represent bars and restaurants . You know we just got finished with Fault Oberfest , which was the Sunday .
Speaker 1Yes , I saw that yes it's a lot .
Speaker 3It's a lot of stuff .
Speaker 1I know what you seem like . You're up for it . High energy .
Speaker 3I have too much energy .
Speaker 1I need outlets .
Speaker 3like you know , when lightning strikes you've got to get grounded , so just projects more projects .
Speaker 2Is there anything that you don't do ? Yeah , that's yes , Let us know .
Speaker 3Wow , I don't like to eat raw onions . I mean other than that , I mean you . Just , I'm fair game , I'll do a project .
Speaker 1What if they were diced really small man like the kind that are on McDonald's burgers .
Speaker 3Yeah , scraped those off with that floppy pickle .
Speaker 2Okay , I agree 100% . No , thank you .
Speaker 3Yeah , but you know I've tried to live my life very much like the that Jim Carrey movie . Yes man , you know just .
Speaker 1I like that movie .
Speaker 3And it has really gotten me into a lot of really interesting situations , both good and some not so great . But , you know , just being open to new projects and new ideas and not always being like , well , how much money am I going to make ? Is this going to be cool ? Am I going to just do it , you know , and you will find yourself yeah , maybe not everything's a winner , but you will find yourself opening up all of these pathways and meeting interesting people and doing really interesting things , and you know who knows .
Speaker 1I like that mentality and that's our podcast ladies and gentlemen , yeah , and that's it . Yeah , Just say yes , thanks .
Speaker 3It was great being here .
Speaker 1Thank you for the inspiration .
Speaker 2Tell us a little bit about how you ended up in Northwest Arkansas .
Speaker 3Oh man . Well , so I was born in the deep South . The deep deep South like in Florida , like it doesn't go any deeper than that and everyone's crazy there , florida man in the news again .
Speaker 1Always , it's always .
Speaker 3And you know my family . We moved to Alabama and I lived in Alabama because that's where my grandparents are from , and then a stint in Louisiana and my father was a metallurgical engineer , so it was like different jobs and all this kind of stuff . And then he got a job here in Northwest Arkansas and I moved up here like right before I got into high school you know I was still like a teenager . This was a really interesting place and I mean , of course this was . It was a very different place back then and you know we have just watched Northwest Arkansas grow and when I went to college here and in college I kind of fell in love with the area . I helped found KXUA 88.3 . I was helped start that radio station .
Speaker 3I was a station manager there for a long time and you know I just got really involved with community stuff at that time . And then , after my college career , I was like , well , I was doing this desk job , I was hating my life , you know I was . I was sitting in front of a computer . It's like my mom was proud of me because I had like health insurance and my name was on the door and I was only like 21 , 22 , you know . But I was getting fat and I was getting depressed and I didn't understand why . Because I was like , well , this is what everybody is supposed to do . You know you got this job . You know you're on a ladder that you can climb and all this kind of stuff . And I'm like , why am I so miserable ? I had a friend of mine . He's like hey , you know me and some buddies are going to go do a short film . You know , would you help us out with this ? And they're like you have a good ear for things . And blah , blah , blah . And I said , okay , yeah , let's do this thing . And I really liked it . And I said , man , this is really cool .
Speaker 3And I was DJing on the side , I was throwing these parties .
Speaker 3I was , I was doing a lot of you know just weird stuff on the side and I said you know what , why don't I turn all these hobbies into ways to pay myself and survive ?
Speaker 3And I found out , like , through all that insanity , I ended up landing a job with Discovery Networks , right , and Discovery Channel , tlc , all that kind of stuff , and I got to travel a lot with that . And the more that I traveled , the more that I looked back at Northwest Arkansas as like this really unique place and I , I , I would fall more in love with Northwest Arkansas the more I would leave it . And so that it was like at that point where I was like this is where I want to be , you know , and I want to be on the ground floor , because the ground floor is getting harder and harder to get into here . And that was that decision where I'm like I'm going to open a business here like a brick and mortar , I'm , this is , this is my home . Now it took a really long time for me to realize that my Northwest Arkansas was my home , because in your youth you're just like I'm out of here , screw it . Even though I'd been here for a while , it didn't feel like home until I'd left .
Speaker 1Yeah , that makes sense , that's incredible . I love what you said about doing what you thought you were supposed to do , because I encountered that myself . I thought that I had to go to college , that I had to get a corporate job , which I did , but I left like 10 years ago and they were all like you'll be back and I do . Nope , and I will never go back . That's what they want you to think .
Speaker 1I thought I needed to do that and I did not , and I kind of I'm the same as you . I do a lot of different things , creative , and I love it .
Speaker 3And I think we're starting to see . You know , with with COVID was a really interesting time for a lot , of , a lot of industries , you know . I mean in bars and hospitals . It was a crippling time but it also pushed us to do interesting new things and find creative ways to make money and creative ways to get the word out , and I think that we're starting to see a lot of really interesting things , just like this home studio we're sitting in you know , and , just like your people are starting to podcast , people are finding , you know , more and more Etsy people .
Speaker 3People are working from home and finding these outlets because they had to for a minute and it forced them to do that thing . Like , well , I know I'm supposed to be doing this , but I'm stuck at home , I'm freaking out , I don't know what . You know what ? Screw it . I'm going to do this different thing . Yeah , and most people spend so much of their lives afraid of doing something they think might fail and , honestly , we all need to do things that might fail .
Speaker 2Agreed Absolutely . I agree with that . Yes , as a perfectionist .
Speaker 1It's really hard because that's I only like to do , things I'm really good at .
Speaker 3Well , I only do good things . So yeah , I only do good things , you only do good things .
Speaker 1Okay . So , speaking of good things , tell us about pinpoint .
Speaker 3Oh my God , pinpoint Another one of those weird accidents . Yeah , pinpoint was like shouldn't have happened . Honestly , it was . It was a dream of mine I've had since I was a kid and I saw that movie with Tom Cruise called Cocktail .
Speaker 1You know I love that movie .
Speaker 3And you know , like writing reports in school . They're just like , oh well , you know , sixth grade . They're like what do you want to do when you grow up ? And I go , I want to own a bar .
Speaker 1You said that yeah , it was , it was called .
Speaker 3Bose Place , and I still have the . That is so fantastic , and it was like a club , you know it's cool and neon and they're like okay . Well , yeah , that's , that's an interesting thing for a child to want to do , but I love entertaining people , you know
Overcoming Social Anxiety With Creativity
Speaker 3, I love . I love because I have a , you know , and this is a little personal , but I have a lot of social anxiety , which most people would never believe because , I've been on stage in front of thousands of people .
Speaker 3You know , I was literally just on stage in front of thousands of people on Sunday . I'm not afraid of cameras , I'm not afraid of microphones . I love throwing humongous parties . I've been doing it my whole life . But if you really kind of strip that away , I'm always in control . You know , I'm always on a stage or I'm always , you know , creating or crafting , and it is my way of being able to handle . Like being in that crowd is entertaining that crowd , you know , and if I was just in the crowd with a beer standing around , I wouldn't know what to do . I'm like I got to get out of here . This is stressing me out or put me on stage , give me a mic , give me a mop , give me something to do .
Speaker 3It's really interesting , because all of these things that led me to pinpoint was what was an accident and some people called me and they wanted to . There was an old basement space that had come open and they wanted me to partner with them to take over the space and start this bar . And I'm like , well , bo knows how to do all this stuff , you know , and he's been doing these events , he's been doing all this stuff we got . We got to get him on the team and I was like who can you sure ? Why not ? You know , like I do , and they ended up dropping out of the project several months in because of stuff that we're not going to talk about .
Speaker 3I mean no bad blood between any of us . It was the three of us versus some very unsavory landlords and some other stuff like that . But a lot of us lost a lot of money really fast and they got spooked out by and they're like okay , we've already sunk too much into this and had nothing to do with pinball at all , was actually going to be called block 23 . It was going to be a basement , speak easy with food and all this kind of stuff , but the building's 107 years old and the city wouldn't let us really put a kitchen down there , and it was just one problem after another . I mean , project started in 2015 . We didn't even open until 2018 , right ?
Speaker 1Three years later .
Speaker 3Three years later and it evolved so much and when we realized we had to scrap the kitchen element , I was like , well , I've got 3,800 square feet down here . I can't just put tables and chairs and expect this to be cool . It's just huge . And I had been . My friend Shay Mathis had started Arcadia retrocade a few years prior .
Speaker 2I love Shay and Shay is such a huge . You know , Shay .
Speaker 3Oh yeah , Shay is one of those people that is a shining beacon to community , to creativity and to selflessness .
Speaker 3You know , and more people need to be like Shay . But because of his selflessness it's infectious . And I was repairing and restoring his games for him for free , because I just loved what he did and I was working in film and I had all this free time . And again going back to what we said earlier about doing stuff because you should and not because , like well , how much was it going to pay me ? I was doing this for free because I believed in what he was doing , you know . But then that also put me in front of a lot of pinball machines , and Shay doesn't like pinball because they're laborious , they're expensive , they break constantly .
Speaker 3So I was buying some of these when we would go out and discover them . And I had a small collection and I was like , well , I've got to fill up the space . I've got like eight pinball machines . Why don't I just like kind of rebrand and make some stuff happen around pinball ? And so I sat down with an artist friend of mine , sasha Ryavsky probably see one of his murals around town . We're having coffee and I was like all right , dude , the name is Pinpoint , let's have some coffee and let's doodle . And we got our pens and papers and we were just doodling and then we came up with the logo and we're like , okay , this is it , this is going to be it .
Speaker 3So I aggressively started buying more beat up old pinball machines and restoring them really quickly and then by the time that we opened we had 11 in the collection . Now we have 68 . Yeah , they won't all fit in there . We have to rotate them out every month now , but 22 usually is in the in the in the business at any given time . And so right now , like for Nightmare Unblocked Street , we have all Halloween themed games , which is really fun and cool Because you walk in and you're like there's this many Halloween themed pinball machines . It's one of the only collections in the country like that , which is pretty cool .
Speaker 1That's really okay I can't wait to go .
Speaker 3Pinpoint was born and we we've been going ever since .
Speaker 2I told you , I was proposed .
Speaker 1I love that story . It's an incredible story .
Speaker 2It really truly is .
Speaker 1I totally thought that that's how you plan to start . It was Not at all . I love it .
Speaker 3It was saying yes to a project , I had no idea what was going to happen , and then just not giving up .
Speaker 3You know when everybody else did , and now you have no investors . I'm the single owner , you know , which is very hard and has its own struggles , but also it's a lot of freedom . I'm not accountable to any suits that don't understand my business . They come in and tell me how to do it . I , I , my mistakes are my own , you know . And I , my turnover rate is , uh , let's see 0% in four years . We've only , you know , no , I've never had to really fire anybody . No one ever wants to quit Like . I've had a solid team that stuck with me through COVID , because you know they believe in what we're doing and you know a lot , a lot of bars and restaurants , and especially in Northwest Arkansas , um , there's , there's an ownership that is not present in the business . It's just like , well , we want to own a restaurant or we want to own a bar , all of a sudden they come in and sit down with their friends and their clients and they're like .
Speaker 3Oh , why are we doing this ? Why are we doing this ? And they and they make all the staff unhappy . And you know , at pinpoint you will often see me there mopping the floor or cutting lines or just helping out my team , because that's what I think ownership should do when they're on site . You know , and and and and . I think it makes people believe in what you're doing better .
Speaker 2For sure I think so , and I love that you have that yes man mentality .
Speaker 1I do too .
Speaker 2I think that's a really great way to live our lives , yeah , going after things that we are passionate about , things that inspire us , make us excited , and and just the list goes on and on . So pinpoint is amazing .
Speaker 3Pinpoint yeah .
Speaker 2I've gone there multiple times . I love Nightmare on Block Street and I want to talk about that .
Speaker 3Let's talk about it , yes , it is October . It is Talking about , it's fresh .
Speaker 2Yes . So tell us a little bit about , like , what inspired you to start Nightmare on Block Street , and then tell us why do you put so much time and money and effort into this pop-up ?
Speaker 3bar , Because I'm crazy . Well , it goes back to that . Yes , man At it , I mean that's the whole reason I'm here , Like I don't have time to be here , you know . But you asked and I didn't know you very well , and it's a podcast and I do a podcast and I wouldn't want someone telling me you know , screw off , I'm like I'm going to do this .
Speaker 4What is it ?
Speaker 3It's two hours of my day Like why not ? You know , let's do the thing .
Speaker 2Thank you , of course , thank you so much .
Speaker 3I got four hours of sleep last night but I came up here anyway and I've got a whole long day today . But Nightmare on Block Street and Halloween like it goes back to my childhood . You know Halloween was . I came from like a divorced household and like Christmas wasn't always a fun time , because when you're like a child and you're getting split between two houses , I can relate to that .
Speaker 1Yeah , it's kind of stressful . It's still stressful for me .
Speaker 3Yeah , and so you know , halloween was this time where I got to just really bond with my mom , you know , and we would make costumes together . We were , we became home haunters , if you're familiar with what that concept is no .
Speaker 2No , but at least tell me .
Speaker 3Well , now it's a pretty big thing , but you know , when I was a kid there wasn't a spirit Halloween . Home Depot didn't have 12 foot skeletons , you know . Walmart didn't have inflatables everywhere . You kind of had to make your own props . And there was this weird sort of community , you know , like you know it was like wwwhomespooconnersangelfireaolcom . You'd go and there's a web ring and you'd like share like how to make a ghost look realistic .
Speaker 3And you know and everybody would share these creative ideas and you'd go build these things in your yard . You'd be that house , you know everybody knows that house ? Yes , and we loved that . And as I got older , you know I loved movies like the Drive-In Speaker . Box is my podcast .
Speaker 3that's about movies and I was like man , you know , when I get older , I want to go to that house or that party where everyone's in costume and everything's decorated . And you know , and then I got older and I was in high school and all the high school parties no one was in costume , it was just . You know , I'm going to take a swing of vodka , then chase it with Sprite and then I pass out and like that was the party , you know , and I'm like not fun , not for me . And I go well , okay , that didn't exist . Maybe when I'm in college the bars will be like cool and decked out and the parties will be there , and then I'm like 21, . That wasn't the case either . It's like , well , here's some spider web at your at the bar , and now there's a cover and that's it , like there was nothing else , and some lame costume contest has always rigged because it's a popularity contest . It's like oh , your butt's out .
Speaker 3Yay , she's popular out there . They win and you know it's the .
Speaker 1Playboy Bunny .
Speaker 3Yeah , oh , so original , and I have emcee'd my fair share of costume contests and oh , it's always the same . But anyway , I was like , well , if no one's going to do this , I have to do this . And I started throwing these , these Halloween parties called the Beatbox Halloween Dance Party , and Beatbox was my DJ name back then when I was DJing a lot and B-A-C-H-S like the composer . So we were doing these parties and they were huge and I would decorate it out , because I never got rid of any Halloween decorations . I mean , you can go to Nightmare on Block Street and see stuff that's like 25 years old , you know .
Speaker 3Please don't touch it . And you know we would do these things and everyone would lose their minds . I was like that was the most amazing . It was just like I'd always wanted a Halloween party to be . And they got bigger , and got bigger , and got bigger . And then by the time I had Pinpoint it got too big . And you know there's only so much you can do in terms of detail and immersion when it's one night and then everyone's going crazy and super rowdy and I said I really wanted to give people that immersive experience that I wanted , but I can't do it in one night and I can't do it if you're going to be acting a fool .
Speaker 3So Nightmare on Block Street kind of kind of happened . I was like , let's stretch it out , because everybody had kind of heard of a Christmas , you know themed bar , because that had been a thing for about two years . And I'm like , well , why is nobody doing Halloween ? Now I know why no one's doing to it because it's way too hard . It's so much work to do Halloween because you could just throw up wrapping paper and Christmas lights and call it a day for Christmas , but for Halloween you're creating scenes and there's animatronics and there's lighting effects and there's all this kind of mood setting , but I had just spent a whole lifetime of already doing it , so I had everything in my disposal . We just combined the two and then there you had Nightmare on Block Street .
Speaker 1How long is it ? How long do you draw out ?
Speaker 3the September 29th through October 31st .
Speaker 1Wow , and how long does it take you to set it up ?
Speaker 3Well , so we plan , I mean , all year round . It's a planning thing . You know I'm ordering things from China . You know you got to get all your branded cups and all this kind of things , like any normal huge event . But when you're designing we call them vignettes , you know . So each booth is a different vignette , in different areas and senior areas . We have about 12 different vignettes and say , one of the ones that we're doing this year is the Mummy's Tomb . Right , you know , it's all Egypt and you know we had to figure out how we're going to do sarcophagus and how we're going to make these mummies and how we're going to get hieroglyphics and all these things on the wall . And you know , and you start amassing these things all year round Because I mean it's way too expensive to just buy it straight up .
Speaker 3So , yeah , so you're always thrifting your Facebook marketplace , craigslist , you know all this kind of stuff and you get an idea in your head because we have five days to build it , because you can't shut your business five days . And when you come and see it and you go this happened in five days . You will not believe me , so your your mind's going to be blown .
Speaker 1So you don't sleep for like five days I bet .
Speaker 3Barely , it's more than five days , but but yeah , I don't sleep for at least like 10 because there's the pre , pre plan , because I have a warehouse of just pinball machines and decorations . It's all it is . It's like a 3000 for a square foot warehouse .
Speaker 2I want , like to go through this . I 100% want to go to this warehouse . Can you please make that ?
Speaker 1happen . You should just make that an event . Go through the warehouse .
Speaker 3The Willy Wonka-esque like oh , a golden ticket .
Speaker 1I would pay to see that . Yes 100% .
Speaker 3What was that ?
Speaker 2A world of pure imagination 10 balls here .
Speaker 3Corpse is there .
Speaker 4Like it's .
Speaker 3You know it's pretty weird . But yeah , we have to get ready to deploy and then , when it's go time , I mean it's go time and we close down on Sunday , because in the bar business you can't miss a weekend . You know , Friday and Saturday is how we make our money , so we have to get as soon as that . Saturday night we lock those doors . It's on because we have to be ready for next Friday and we get it all cleared out , all deployed , we get the menu trained with the bartenders , everything lined up , and Friday night we got to make sure everything's ready to go . And it's wild .
Speaker 2That is so exciting I would love I have want to come document that . I want to come document the stars GoPro on your helmet . You just come like we're just going to fall bow around everywhere we're going to come to the meeting .
Speaker 3Yeah , you'll get all your steps in .
Speaker 2Planning the vignettes , ordering the items for the vignettes , planning it out , starting it , decorating .
Speaker 1I mean , in my past life I was an event planner . So Then when it happens , yeah , it's exciting , but it's gruer Next thing .
Speaker 3Well , and I did event planning for years as well , and then I think that helps me run a bar very well because you know it's there's so many logistics and events A lot of people don't realize like , oh , I was there for two hours and it was so much fun . It must be fun to do events .
Speaker 1Whoa , it's not like that yeah .
Speaker 3If you like blood pressure and you like lack of sleep and stress , like yeah , sign up , be an event planner .
Speaker 2Absolutely Like sitting in the corner .
Speaker 1Do you ?
Speaker 3like sitting on a milk crate cramming whatever leftover catering in your mouth in the back room , Back of house eating .
Speaker 1You gotta love that . I love that we all have had an event experience . That's giving me flashbacks .
Speaker 2Yeah , I saw that twitch you just like twitch , I did .
Speaker 1I was once yelled at for bringing out the wrong ice in a bartender competition . Oh no , I was supposed to bring out Half Moon and I think I brought out . We had like five different kinds of ice for this .
Speaker 3Well , yeah , you got your nugget ice .
Speaker 1Yes .
Speaker 3You got your cubelet ice . You got your large rocks ice . You got your crescent moon ice . I mean , there's a .
Speaker 1And oh yeah .
Speaker 3It's all very important .
Speaker 1It's very important in the ice and out the wrong ice and the bartender Woo , I'm so mad .
Speaker 3Yeah , you can't put an old fashion on nugget ice . I know you can't put Tiki drinks on a large rock , but I was like do not hire . Danielle yeah , do not hire Danielle for the ice Mental notes .
Speaker 2We are not hiring her for this , so what are some of your favorite vignettes for this year ?
Speaker 3Oh man , well , I have my favorites , but the crowd favorites were the two that I didn't think were going to fly . Like , we did a Scooby-Doo booth because I just I just got a Scooby-Doo pinball machine this year . It's brand new and it's really awesome . So we did a Scooby-Doo it's all black light , so it glows and it's all the monsters and everything that you do A Scooby or shaggy impersonation . I was just like oh Scoob , you know shaggy Right .
Speaker 1I can't do it .
Speaker 3Give us a jinkies .
Speaker 1Oh , I don't know .
Speaker 3Just jinkies , the Velma jinkies .
Speaker 1Velma , Can you do it ? Jinkies no .
Speaker 3I don't know , she's just girl voice .
Speaker 2I can't do it Girl voice .
Speaker 3You did it , nailed it you did fantastic , crushed it .
Speaker 2Go us .
Speaker 3So we had that one . Everybody loves that one . It's all hand painted actually , which was scary , but it came together really well and the an Exorcist booth . It was the .
Speaker 4I wanted to do it because it's the anniversary of the Exorcist , you know , and there's a new movie coming out this weekend and I was like man , you know I really need to do this .
Speaker 3I want to do it . It's relevant right now , people will get it . But if you watch the film the Exorcist , there's not a whole lot of stuff like props and references . It's like trapped in just a very bland white walled room . Like how do you make this fun ? And we somehow managed to pull it off and it's been a crowd favorite because you know Reagan's like flying over the table , looking down at your head , spins and like you know it's all kinds of crazy stuff . There's a floating lamp that like starts flickering and going crazy .
Speaker 2I'm so ready . I'm so ready . I love Halloween . I do too . It is my . It is my favorite holiday . It is , oh yeah , absolutely what's your favorite scary movie .
Speaker 1Oh my gosh , that's good .
Speaker 2That's a really good Scream .
Speaker 1Anyone .
Speaker 2Scream . Yes , I was going to say I love Scream . Scream is a great movie . Probably Nightmare on Elm Street , Honestly .
Speaker 3Oh man , really Watching that . Yeah , part three the Dream Warriors .
Speaker 2Oh , my goodness , there are some of the best . So I've always had a love for Halloween . I had similar experiences growing up . My mom used to take us to this like Halloween show . It wasn't , it was like a kid version of Rocky Horror Picture or something like that oh cool . Which was very interactive and costumes were a big deal growing up . Sometimes we got homemade costumes , sometimes store bought . It was just a mix of things .
Speaker 3I mean call back to the beginning of the show , Like the fact that you just told us earlier that you've not been dressing up every year . I've never not dressed up for my entire life .
Speaker 2She is going to be fired . Okay , she doesn't dress up this year .
Speaker 1Let me tell you , it depends if I'm going to like . Growing up as a kid , I always dressed up , Absolutely so unless I was going to a party , I would not dress up . I just hand out candy . But now . I know , but now that I have kids , I we go every year Like my younger daughter wants to be Coraline .
Speaker 3Anybody seen Coraline ? Well , is that the we ? I love Coraline . What is it ? Leica Studios is fantastic and all of the stuff that they do Paranorman . If you've ever seen that one same studio . But you said we does that mean you're also dressing up ?
Speaker 1Yes .
Speaker 3Okay , good .
Speaker 1Yes , I mean I had the lady in Coraline that wants to be her mom with the but not her . But my other daughter wants to be Frankenstein's monster .
Speaker 3Yes , we have a huge Frankenstein setup that , our bar , that , so the bar , physical bar itself is Dr Frankenstein's lab and I built like this whole machine and there's buttons and knobs and electricity and oh , I love , I love a good , I mean , it's on my shirt , yes , he's got it so fantastic .
Speaker 1Yes , I do love Halloween . It wasn't always my favorite , but I do like it now . So this year we all went as . Didn't you dress up like this , Allison Wonderland ? I was not Allison .
Speaker 2Wonderland .
Speaker 1Well , we did that , but I'm just glad my kids didn't want to go as Barbie , because I feel like , oh , that's all you're going to see this year .
Speaker 3I think you're going to see a lot of Barbies .
Speaker 1I'm going to see more Kins . Yes .
Speaker 3Then Barbies .
Speaker 1I want to say because Ken was the real star of the movie right , he really was , yeah .
Speaker 3Well , and dudes just love a good excuse to wear a tacky costume and get a lot of attention .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 3And I think we're going to see a and it's probably going to be the worst , the worst people we know that are going to be dressed as Ken You're like , oh great . Like this guy needs to be more extra .
Speaker 2Oh my gosh , you're so 100% right , you are . I love dressing up for Halloween , and that's how you met Brock . That is how I met Brock , so you were . Beetlejuice yeah . Or not , you weren't you weren't , you were from the movie we , so Never . Beetlejuice .
Speaker 4Yeah , it wasn't Beetlejuice .
Speaker 2So my husband and I went to . It was the only Halloween party that the Bentonville Film Festival put on , and so there was free tickets .
Speaker 3The VIP passes up for us Sounds very Bentonville and so , yeah , it is very Bentonville Free tickets .
Speaker 2Free tickets , free everything . And so my husband and I , we made masks , we did paper machine masks , we created them . They're the the Gina Davis and Ellen Baldwin characters . When they like , stretch their faces out and so we created those .
Speaker 1I've seen it , it's legit .
Speaker 2It's not . It's close to go with the outfits . It was amazing .
Speaker 3You looked really good . Last year I did a huge Beetlejuice vignette you did .
Speaker 2Yes , I remember that . I loved it . That's one of my favorite movies .
Speaker 3Beetlejuice is probably one of my favorite movies . Are you excited about the sequel that's coming out next year ?
Speaker 2Yes .
Speaker 1Yeah , I love Michael .
Speaker 2Keaton . I love Michael Keaton too , however , so we I love Michael Keaton so we won the costume contest , and that was pretty , pretty legit . Was Brock the judge Brock was the DJ .
Speaker 1Was it Riggs and just DJ ? No , it wasn't Riggs . I know he didn't know you .
Speaker 2Actually there was like a couple there that they were dressed like a Dalmatian and Cruella Deville , and I think they had a lot of friends there . We didn't go with any friends . We were like we're just going to go . We're just going to go have a good time .
Speaker 3And that's rare that you won , because a lot of these costume contests they got friends in the audience , especially when it's like a crowd scream vote Absolutely yeah . It's a tough thing to win . Nice job , it was so fun .
Speaker 2You legit won , we legit won .
Speaker 3It was exciting .
Speaker 2It was a good time . But my family we make our kids do a family costume every year . Yes , Love us .
Speaker 1My kids are rebelling against the machine there . My oldest refuses to be in a group setting this year .
Speaker 3But are they still dressing up ? Oh yeah , okay good , because a lot of kids they'll get that cool phase .
Speaker 2They're like I have to kill for a costume . That's what ? Yeah , we're not there yet we're not there yet we also let them choose the theme , and so we go off of what kind of the things that are interesting to them , and so then it makes it a little bit more fun . So we've done Scooby-Doo , we did SpongeBob , squarepants .
Speaker 1Are you doing Wednesday this year ?
Speaker 2We don't tell people until they see .
Speaker 3Oh sorry , I think somebody should do like I want to see a family . That the what we do in the shadows , but like have children dressed as all the characters .
Speaker 2Oh my goodness , that was fantastic . Last year we were . It was kind of like an outer space Theme and I was the son , my husband was Uranus and I know 100% Right . So we have fun , it's fun . Halloween is a great time . We let them do their own individual costumes during the day to go to school .
Speaker 3But so do you let your kids watch scary movies ? Absolutely .
Speaker 1Some yeah Within reason , of course .
Speaker 2Within reason , absolutely , I think , the biggest thing for me . We were just talking about this a little bit about Wednesday and stranger things my nine year old wants to watch Wednesday and I've been on the fence because I've seen it .
Speaker 1But I let her watch Adam's family and that's like the adult version and that's better it is , yeah .
Speaker 3Yeah , that's better . I mean , wednesday was cool . Yeah , I enjoyed it . My issue with it was they really made the Adams family not very Adams family , I know and they gave them all like magic powers and stuff .
Speaker 3It's like no , this isn't the MCU Adams family . They're just creepy , kooky , mysterious , and you know , kooky , like , don't like Fester was shooting lightning , like like Lord Raiden for Mortal Kombat , and I'm like what is going on here ? And then you know Wednesday's telekinetic all of a sudden and you know I'm like what , what is going on in this , in this movie , and then there's werewolves and vampires and I think that was the my biggest issue with Wednesday is they made it very Hogwarts or what's the other ? Sabrina the T-Dage witch , and it's like what , to me , made the Adams family so interesting ?
Speaker 3If you go back into the , you know the Adams comics , like where they , they all come from , is they exist in a world of normality and they are weird , and so they're the ones that are unique . But Wednesday was the most normal person at her school , which was kind of strange because she's like oh well , my roommate's a like and throw up , and this person's a vampire and somehow all of . But now we think that Wednesday is weird and it just didn't really read to me as as a believable storyline because she's the most normal character in the whole thing .
Speaker 1But it's still fun . Yeah , it was still fun , it was still fun . It's still fun , it's still fun , yeah , a little drive-in speaker box podcast coming out there .
Speaker 3Yeah , I know .
Speaker 1I like that . No , my kids love Halloween movies , and I think on free form they're doing all kids movies , so every night we're watching a Halloween movie , but they love Tim Burton . That's probably their favorite Any of those movies . I do want to hear about your Halloween costumes , though .
Speaker 2What are some of your top three ? Oh man , I've had a lot of good ones .
Speaker 3What's what's what's uh , is it ? Uh , it's not Rebecca Romain Stamos who does the the the big cut . She's known for the costumes . Oh no , heidi Klum , heidi Klum , that's what I was thinking , remember when she dressed like an old lady . She looked so realistic . Oh , and Roger Rabbit , yes .
Speaker 1Yes , I'm basically the Heidi Klum of Fayetteville when it comes to to costumes .
Speaker 3I believe that and everybody always expects me to have like really crazy over the top costumes .
Speaker 3I have done . I did a did a vampire slayer costume one year . That was really wild because I , like you know , I had real like vintage holy water bottles from like the 1940s Catholic church . I had like all this Craig , real garlic and like all this stuff and , uh , that one was a really really cool one . I was a a a a witch doctor once and that one was really cool because I had at least 20 different taxidermied animals like sewn into my jacket . I made this big , like leather duster , had like a rattlesnake skin on the back and all these like alligator hands and bones and I and I got this like a quail skeleton off this taxidermy where a website online and sewed it into this top hat with quail feathers and like I mean it was told and legit too . I don't like like spirit Halloween .
Speaker 3I know I'm a soda can that says pop my top or like whatever , and uh , you know those I'm going to show up to pinpoint wearing that Soda cans is pop my top .
Speaker 3Um , well , yeah , so I , I love making my costume . I hate store bought costumes . And this year , um , you know , ever since Nightmare on Block streets happened , I've always dressed to the the primary theme of the bar . And the primary theme of the bar , you know , we do , like I said , we do 12 different vignettes , but the main theme is the physical bar that you walk up to , like that whole wall , cause it's a 50 foot long bar , you know . So it's a lot of space and I will always dress in accordance to whatever that theme is , cause that's the men are menu is themed to what you're seeing when you walk up to the bar , and this year it's Dr Frankenstein's lab . So obviously I'm going to be Dr Frankenstein , but I'm going to be like , yeah , kenneth Brana , style Dr Frankenstein . You know where he's , where he's a little bit handsome and wealthy , because he's a wealthy , you know , scientist and , uh , you know public , you know you know yeah scientists and , uh , you know , puffy shirts and all this kind of stuff .
Speaker 3So it's going to be , yeah , that's , that's , that's my costume this year . That's exciting .
Speaker 1I like that you told us the costume Danielle's trying to hide her costume .
Speaker 2I . I mean I have two costumes because we're going to a lot of Halloween parties . And so we have like our adult costumes , which are always fun and creative . And then we have the family costume . So okay , so you do multiple costumes , of course . Why would I not ? Yeah ?
Speaker 3I I I have three different varieties of the Dr Frankenstein because I'm going to be dressed up like 15 times this year . I don't want the same one .
Speaker 1You guys got to help me out . I mean , I am locking in this area .
Speaker 3I'm really liking the Brittany with the knives .
Speaker 1Yes , yes , okay , I feel like I just need some fake knives , that's it .
Speaker 2And then , I'll wear like a bathing suit . I'm telling you , it would be an amazing costume .
Speaker 1If you see a Brittany with knives at your bar , you're going to know who it is .
Speaker 2Uh-huh , you will know a hundred percent .
Speaker 1Yeah , I'm going to put some bandages on . I'll be the person .
Speaker 3I'll be the oops . I did it again .
Speaker 2I could see your .
Speaker 4I'll be your camera operator filming you Doing your dance .
Speaker 2Yeah , you just stop in the middle of the bar and just clang clang .
Speaker 1I feel like this is going to be a really good one this year , because I do . Then Bo escorts you out .
Speaker 3Like ma'am um , are you surrender your weapons , and I'm going to ask you to vacate the premises .
Speaker 1Yes , and also you're never allowed back .
Speaker 2Never . Oh my God , this has been a fun episode . I love talking about Halloween Me too , Nightmare luxury . We really want to ask you some questions about yeah , let's be on topic , or whatever .
Speaker 3What is the topic ? What is the topic ? You are the topic , but also you're our Halloween episode , because we love .
Speaker 2Halloween .
Speaker 1Yes .
Speaker 2Think that you're cool and we want to hear more about your life and about your bar and all of these things . But we want to hear about any spooky encounters .
Speaker 1Okay , hauntings . It's a hundred and seven year old building .
Speaker 3Yes , well , so I actually have a lot of really creepy stories and I do have one related to pinpoint . I've got two . We could tell the both or you could choose . I have one my grandmother was when I was a child . She was , you know , the National Enquirer . You remember that Like she was on the cover of National Enquirer once as psychic neighbor predicts murder . And yeah , that's that's . That's the teaser . And then the other story , the pinpoint story . We do have a ghost . His name is Cecil and I kid you not , and we did not name him , we did not give him his name . We found out his name . It was not last year , but the year before .
Speaker 3We were doing the Seant shows at Nightmare on Block Street on Monday nights and you know , the boroughs closed on Monday , so it was like a limited . You buy a ticket and you come in and we have this big round table and I had this guy , chase Goforth , who's an amazing guy . He was leading these kind of Seant shows that were just like a magic show mentalism , you know but under the guise of like , oh , you know , we're communing with the spirits . And at a point in the show there was a guest that was there and Chase would say oh , is there any spirits that you know you want to contact tonight ? Write it down on a piece of paper . And this guy wrote Cecil , you know , and he , he was talking about this goes .
Speaker 3And I wasn't present for the show . I was there at the bar like doing other stuff , but I couldn't hear what was going on on in the Seant . And at the end of the night the guy he was like hey , you're the owner , right ? And I said , yeah , man , what's up ? Did you have a great time ? He's like oh , this is awesome , this is awesome . He's like but I have a question for you . Have you guys ever experienced and he starts listing off these things ? He's like you ever heard like footsteps in the middle of the night upstairs ? Have you ever , have you ever seen anything like walking out of the corner of your area ? Has anything ever just like fallen down ? And he points over into the corner . He's like and does it happen over there ? And I go all right , where's Ashton ? You know who's punking me Like this , yeah , yeah , this , this , this does happen . And how do you know about it ? Who are you ? Who put you up to this ? He's like that's Cecil .
Speaker 4And I'm like what are you talking about ?
Speaker 3And he goes . I worked here in the 90s when it was JRs and Cecil was was a janitor that would come in and clean the building overnight , and he died down here and well that gave me the chills .
Speaker 3Yeah , and and and he was like ever since he died , and I even went to confirm this with one of the old owners of JRs Wade who owns Block Street Records . Now they were . There used to be carpet down there once . By the time and and and Wade was when he was renovating and changing things over to a different concept and probably like the late 90s , early 2000s , they ripped up the carpet and they found Cecil's ID under the carpet .
Speaker 3Under the carpet and and Wade was like okay , I'm done . He was like I'll never go down there at night again because there was no way that it could have . Like how , how did it get under the carpet ? You know , yeah . So ever since then , like late at night , you know that we have a bottle rack over in that corner and you'll hear the bottles just like shake and rattle . Sometimes Things will fall .
Speaker 3If you prop anything up in that corner , it'll , it'll fall down every time not all the time , but if you're there late at night you know no one else is around . Boom . Sometimes the stereo will just mysteriously click on and start playing music .
Speaker 1OK that I would freak out .
Speaker 3I would probably run out of yeah it's crazy , and then the creepiest one , that that everybody's heard and you don't really think about it until it's explained to you . But you know , upstairs above us are two clothing stores . There's Wander Boutique in Lola , and they're open from , like you know , nine am to five pm daily . You know no one's there at three , thirty am or four am no one ever . And the door is way near our door right , and the Cecil area is kind of in the middle of the room and we have wooden floors I mean , it's a hundred and seven year old building right and so the floors are paper thin .
Speaker 3You can hear every footstep upstairs , which is nice because you know they're open during the day , we're open at night , we don't bother each other . But if you sometimes in your closing you'll hear like 10 footsteps like clomp , clomp , clomp , clomp , clomp , clomp , clomp and that's it , you know you're like where are they going , where did they come from ? Normally if you hear someone , it's like all the way across or going to the door . You can hear it all the way . But you just hear those 10 footsteps and you're like well , it's Cecil , cecil .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , exploring the boutiques . Oh man , but he's friendly , no bad vibes .
Speaker 3No bad vibes , you know he's . There was one time that I realized that Cecil was cool and I was . I was having a really bad day . It was just a really tough weekend and I had found out the news earlier that day that shock G had passed away and shock G was the founder of Digital Underground and I grew up like really into 90s hip hop and I was a DJ and just shocked he was a kind of a , an ask . You know what was it ? Not a mentor , but an inspirational figure , muse , yes , a muse .
Speaker 3I loved his music and I was just bummed out and I'm sitting there and I'm doing some work at Pinpoint and all of a sudden the stereo clicks on to one of my favorite songs that he did and Cecil .
Speaker 3Cecil's cheering you up Right , and I was like , and I thought it was one of my employees . I was like , oh , Carl , thank you man . Yeah , How'd you know I love this song . And then I was like Carl , no one Carl . And I went into the back room where the controls to the stereo are at , and there was nobody there and I had to take a minute . And I was like , all right , Cecil , OK , thanks man . Like I needed that song , you know . And I was like , all right , we cool , we cool , we're homies and yeah so . So from that point on I knew that he was . He was a cool , cool spirit .
Speaker 1Yeah , so no , no , no use in being scared or freaked out about me Now , man he's there to help . Just yeah , I like that , I like . Cecil because sometimes I've had a bad haunting before , not a good vibe , but , but I want to hear about the psychic Neighbor predicts .
Speaker 3Yeah , everybody wants to know that one . I think you can Google him . He's still in jail . His name is David . What was his last name ? David Hasselhoff , david Murder Guy ? Well , just .
Speaker 2David Murder . Guy Love it .
Speaker 3No one figured it out , like how did they not realize it was him ? So no , when I was a kid we lived in Alabama and it was , you know , very not , not unlike a street like this , you know , just a very quiet , quaint , you know middle class neighborhood . And our next door neighbor he was like a youth pastor , you know had two daughters . I was married to , this late , named Debbie , just kind of , you know , would do host barbecues at his house . You know , do the things that everybody does . And all of a sudden I'm all trying paraphrase for time as much as I can here Debbie ran away with another man , quote unquote , you know and she , just she disappeared and she was having an affair , David said , and she just ran away and nobody , nobody knew where she went , and she went with this other man .
Speaker 3Dot , dot , dot and my grandmother started having these weird dreams , right , and she started having these dreams of Debbie and it was just her head and it was like wet and and and you know her head was like wet and you know my grandmother would describe it in detail like that . You know she remembered her hair being like stuck to her face and it was Debbie just saying Maggie , help me , I'm still here .
Speaker 2Oh my .
Speaker 3God and she would have these reoccurring dreams you know fairly often and it started to really bother my grandmother .
Speaker 1Like a lot yeah .
Speaker 3She would tell some people and people be like Maggie , you're crazy , you're crazy , and they , you know , she just ended up like not saying anything about it for a while . And then there was a fish pond . That also happened in the backyard . Very soon after Debbie ran away with another man , he built this fish pond in his backyard and a couple of years went by . A couple of years A couple of years was about a little over two , maybe even three years went by and David decided he was going to sell the house and he put it on the market and he had sold the house to a young couple that had , like an infant , just a toddler , like you know , could walk around but would probably eat batteries or something you know like that age where you know they are mobile , but still not danger to themselves and everything around them , and everything around them .
Speaker 3Absolutely so my grandmother . The dreams started happening a lot more when you know the house . They closed on and so she went over there and my grandmother is . She is an amazing lady and still alive . She's getting close to the 80s , or maybe early 80 , 81 , 80 , 80 , 80 , 80 , 80 , 80 . Anyway , she's old now probably listening to this podcast whenever it goes out .
Speaker 3She's like I'm so proud of you . Anyway , she goes over there and starts to kind of create a relationship with this new couple and by this point my grandmother figured out it was that fish pond . She knew because the water , the all the things , the mysterious happenstance of it just appearing very soon after she had disappeared . And my grandma is very sharp , she's like it's Debbie's down there . Debbie is in that , in that pot . So she managed to convince this newlywed couple that having a fish pond in their backyard was extremely dangerous for their child .
Speaker 1Your grandma is amazing .
Speaker 3I know she's like Agatha Christie over here and like figuring out the murders . Murder , she wrote . And so she convinced them to dig up and fill in this fish pond so that their baby doesn't like fall in and die , right ? So you know there's . There's the pumps and the concrete slab and all this kind of stuff . So they had to excavate all that stuff to fill it in . You can't just put dirt on it , right ? So they called , you know , a team to come in and they started cracking the concrete .
Speaker 3And as soon as the concrete crack and I was playing in the backyard when this happened , I'll never forget that smell , like it comes , you just like erupted , like like emo tip from the mummy's tomb , just shooting out of the crack and the concrete , and just like an evil curse . And they were like OK , something's wrong , we're calling the police . And the police come down . There's yellow tape everywhere , there's news cameras everywhere and they , they excavate the whole thing and find all her body parts that she he'd he'd wrap them up , you know , cut her up into like cut her legs off , arms off , head off .
Speaker 3And your grandma had dreamt of the separate that's yeah and yeah , and so you know , of course , they promptly arrested him and he's still in jail .
Speaker 1But how crazy that her spirit ghost , whatever you want to call it communicated with your grandmother to solve her own murder .
Speaker 3Yeah , that wild . They try to do a lot of . They try to do movie deals with it and you know the family and you know my . There's a book I can't remember but the book was really poorly written by a family member of Debbie's . I think it was just a cash grab and it made everybody look really like not in a good light . So no one really talks about that . But but yeah , I mean it was . It was a weird thing and it was real and happened right next door to me when I was growing up .
Speaker 1It does sound like it should be like American Horror Story or like it's some sort of TV show . Wow .
Speaker 2Short film . Have you been haunted Ghost ?
Speaker 1mom , have you been haunted before ? Have I been haunted before ? No , or have you ?
Speaker 2experienced one , no see . So I like scary things and I like Halloween and movies and things like that , but I did not want to go into the like realm of spirits and that sort of .
Speaker 4Thing .
Speaker 2So growing up , like when friends would want to do the Ouija board , I would legit move it .
Speaker 3I would do it on purpose .
Speaker 2Do you really ?
Speaker 1Yeah , a hundred year old .
Speaker 3Believe it or not .
Speaker 1Nope , not doing it , not doing it that patent .
Speaker 3It was like from 19, . Oh , geez , 19 , 19 , 19 , 19 , I think is when the patent was on this Ouija board and , yeah , it's super old .
Speaker 1I've never done the Ouija board but I did stay in this haunted house in Guthrie , oklahoma , that's been on Ghost Hunters and they do a murder mystery . I was pregnant at the time .
Speaker 4Oh , and I don't know why I agreed to go .
Speaker 1Yeah , so apparently we stayed in this house because it used to be an oil tycoon in in Oklahoma's , like a mansion it's always some rich , eccentric weirdo . Yes , and they moved out and it became a morgue .
Speaker 3Oh , even weirder .
Speaker 1So there , so we stay upstairs in this room , which I noticed like we're in this room and there's a small hallway into like a kids room . But I mean , we have no kids at this point . I'm pregnant , but that night , like I'm thinking , oh , this is kind of a fun , cool room , there was like boas hats and I was like I'll just wear some of these , Not knowing they were like dead peoples . Yeah , so I wear the feather , boa , I do all the things .
Speaker 3That is like straight out of a movie .
Speaker 1Uh , it is so this is like I'm going to put on this possessed boa ? Yeah , no , and I have pictures in it too . So I tell my husband there's one rule please do not drink too much . And like , leave me like alone in this room . What does he do ?
Speaker 3Of course , drink too much and leave you alone in the room .
Speaker 1So he falls asleep and he's like , you know , like I'm like wake up and he's like huh , so he doesn't wake up . But that night I like find out that this room used to be the owner of the house's room and the kids in there had died of some scarlet fever , and so the rumor was that the kids actually only haunt women in this room and I'm a pregnant woman in this room . So I don't know , I swear to you , it's not in my head . That night I heard a train go by . I found out the next day there's no train tracks , whoa , right there . I also felt a breeze and I went and like check the windows . No , windows were open , but the worst was I had a blanket . You know , I'll make some in bed . All night I kept feeling like a pull and I kept waking up , thinking it was the hand from underneath the bed .
Speaker 1Yes , I'm telling you I'm feeling a pull and then in the middle of the night the door handles start shaking . Some people swear they're like oh , I bet the people there were trying to haunt you . I opened the door and go out . I'm not kidding , there's nobody , like I would have heard if they ran down the Ghosts .
Speaker 1Yes , I would have heard if they ran down the stairs . This is an old house so the next day I didn't get much sleep that night . Next day there was the woman who was cleaning the house and she told me that she will not clean that room alone because of it's the most haunted room in the house and it's like the children they say the ghosts of the children . And she said a lot of times she'll pull the , she'll make the bed and pull the sheets nice and tight and she'll go back and there's like little marks like someone was sitting there .
Speaker 3Weird . And then you told her you're like , yeah , and that feather boa , and she goes what feather boa , exactly , and it was never there . And it was never there , you guys .
Speaker 1Never there , in fact I was no , yeah , so that's my one , like real haunting , but I didn't feel like it was a nefarious energy .
Speaker 4Yeah , it was just you know .
Speaker 3Some good spookins .
Speaker 1Good spookins , we love Halloween .
Speaker 2So tell us , what can we expect at Nightmare on Block Street ? Oh geez , yes , some good spookins , yeah .
Speaker 3Like that's . I mean , it's completely immersive . You know , it's that thing that I talked about a minute ago , that event that you see on TV , that you realize as an adult , was only created to be on TV by set designers Movie parties . It's movie parties , because they're not real . We made it real . Yes , you know you're walking down the stairs and you are transported to a place that feels like you're not where you think you are . You know it's like you've never been before and the cocktails are immersive .
Speaker 3We have cocktails that are in cauldrons and beakers and in blood bags and in light up light bulbs .
Speaker 1You told me about the blood bags .
Speaker 3I did . Everyone loves the blood bags she does not .
Speaker 3And we've got a . We got a Harry Potter area too . One of the booths is Harry Potter . So we've got butter beer on draft that we do . And we've got . Yeah , and we've got one of my favorite inventions , you know , and JK Rowling don't sue me Birdie bots every flavored shots . So we you don't know what flavor you're going to get there and they're all like gelatin . I love making cocktail Jell-O , like you know . Yeah , sure , you could just put some vodka and some orange jello , but we like to make lots of different random flavors and sometimes you , sometimes you might just get a coffee one . One time I made a spaghetti sauce one , and they're a bugger one . It was a vodka sauce Like there's . I don't really know what a booker tastes like , so I can't , I can't get a good frame of reference .
Speaker 2My son could tell you oh yeah , oh my gosh , one day he's going to hate me for that .
Speaker 3He's going to hate you , but but yeah you know there's a lot of fun stuff like that that you can , you can expect and you know enough stuff to come multiple times and never see the same thing twice .
Speaker 1Sweet .
Speaker 2Awesome , all right , well , thank you so much for being here . You brought something special with you for our toast today .
Speaker 3Yeah , it's . I'm sorry it's in a Mason jar because we I don't have a growler , oddly enough , at home . I'm more of a hard spirits kind of guy . But we partnered with our friends at Crisis Brewing this year to do a collaboration beer . It's called Hoppy Halloween . It's a it's like a citrus forward IPA . It's a hazy IPA and it's really good . We were very , very proud of it and it's only available at Nightmare on Block Street and at Crisis Brewing for the month of October . So hopefully the carbonation held in the Mason jar and we can we can get a good , good little sip .
Speaker 2Yeah , let's try it right now . All right Cheers , all right Cheers .
Speaker 3Cheers .
Speaker 1Thank you All right . Thank you so much for being on the show and tell our listeners how they can find you on social .
Speaker 3Oh man , so you could right now , for Nightmare on Block Street has its own website , nightmare on Block Street dot com , and it's on Instagram handle Nightmare on Block Street . But pinpoint , pinpoint Fayetteville dot com and at pinpoint Fayetteville on any social media Facebook , instagram and what have you and I'm beat box If you want to follow me personally BEAT BACHS or just Google . Bo counts , like I'm not hard to find . There's , yeah , there's only like one , there's two Bo counts there's and we became friends on Facebook many years ago . He lives in , I want to say like , tennessee and was a soccer coach or something .
Speaker 3So yeah , there's not a lot of Bo counts is out there .
Speaker 1All right , cool , hey , thank you for coming . Yeah , thanks for having me .
Speaker 2Thanks so much for listening today . We had so much fun with Bo . If you are interested in following our podcast , subscribe . Hit that subscribe button so you can get updates on when we release future episodes . Until next time , keep exploring , keep learning and keep sharing your stories . Thank you for being part of the people of Northwest Arkansas community .
Speaker 4People of Northwest Arkansas with the two Danielle's produced by me . Brock Short of Civil Republic Productions . Please rate , review and like us on any podcast platform where you listen . For more information about today's guests and the show , please check the show notes . Thanks for listening .