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The Power of Personal Training with Dustin Williams at Precision Fitness
What if you could transform your life by simply realigning your career with your passion? Meet Dustin Williams, the inspiring owner of Precision Fitness in Bentonville, who left a stable corporate finance job to pursue his true calling in personal fitness coaching. We explore Dustin's remarkable journey and discuss how evolving fitness goals—focusing on health, flexibility, and strength—can be achieved through prioritizing fitness and consistency. We share practical strategies to weave exercise into busy schedules and highlight the mental health benefits of regular physical activity. From treadmill desks to the transformative power of group fitness, learn how accountability and motivation can make all the difference.
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Danielle, do you have any fitness goals?
Speaker 2:this year I do. Actually, it is the 30th reunion for my high school's class, so I'm so you're trying to like look like snatched yeah why would I not?
Speaker 1:look snatched I know that's like I had my 22 years ago. I always like to hear, like, what people's goals are, if they're trying to tone or just get stronger or or what so. So where would it kind of work out?
Speaker 2:so you're doing, I just kind of don't want to hurt is what okay, well, that's fair. Or when I wake up in the morning, my muscles hurt, my body hurts, my back hurts From not working out. From just life.
Speaker 1:Just existing Okay.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I'm just being. I'm being dramatic about being in my late forties and you know, life changes when you get there. Interestingly enough, I do want to feel better about my body and in my body and just healthier and more flexible and things like that.
Speaker 2:So I'm starting yes, I'm starting some new workout sessions and different things that I'm doing, and not because I need to look snatched for my 30th, but I did play water polo and I was a swimmer and I was in a swimsuit a lot, and so I'm like, yeah, about that, life changes, bodies change and it's totally fine. But health and fitness is important and today, a personal fitness coach who's one of the longest running personal training gyms here in. Bentonville. So welcome Dustin Williams. We're so glad that you're here.
Speaker 4:Thank you, it's great to be here. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you own Precision Fitness.
Speaker 4:I do.
Speaker 1:And it's a strictly personal training.
Speaker 4:Yep, that's it. So if somebody comes in, they're working with me or one of my coaches. They're not doing anything on their own. We're guiding them, walking them through everything, awesome. So it's the longest running running.
Speaker 1:so how long has it been running. So december of last year was my 15th anniversary. Wow, congratulations, thank you. Yeah, are you from here?
Speaker 4:more or less. I grew up a combination of here and just across the state line in oklahoma, a little bit of both.
Speaker 1:What part of oklahoma?
Speaker 4:so I lived in a little town called westville for a little bit, and then I went to school in telequad nsu okay, very nice yeah, some of my husband's family, I think, went there actually it's not a bad school yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:So you're kind of a local, more or less yeah, yeah, more or less.
Speaker 2:Currently a local, currently a local.
Speaker 1:I mean, I think that fitness is always at the forefront of everyone's mind in terms of like thinking about aging gracefully right, or just aging at all. I know that my fitness goals have changed pretty dramatically in my late 30s, yeah, and it's kind of shifted because I teach yoga to more like in the strength realm instead of, like you know, like I do. I used to run, be a runner, liked cardio, but now I feel like you have to be more intelligent with your fitness as you get older. It just depends on what your goals are, and so that's something that I think a lot about, and so I think personal training is actually because that's what I do, I do private yoga sessions, and so it's not personal training, but it always has a goal in mind, and so I like the personal training aspect because you cater to whatever like each person, whatever their goal is, whatever they're looking towards. So how did you get into that?
Speaker 4:Oh man, that was tough it was. I mean, I went to NSU, got my degree in finance, actually sat behind a desk at JB Hunt for 50 hours a week and I wish someone would run into my truck on the way to work so I didn't have to go. I hated it. Wow, and it wasn't JB Hunt. The company itself was fine. I just sitting at a desk for that long I was miserable.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And I got posed a question by a guy random dude met one night, never saw him again and he was just like, if you had access to all the money in the world, but you had to do a reasonable job, you can't be a rock star. What would you do? And I really thought about that for a while and I was like, well, I think I would probably be a coach, I'd probably be a trainer, and so it led me into leaving jb hunt and following that dream so rock star was like your first choice oh well, isn't it everybody?
Speaker 4:yeah, I mean I'm, I would probably be more like country star, you know okay, rock star, but yeah, I would have been like an indie rock star.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I would have been like the alternative emo girl or something, I don't know.
Speaker 2:That's so funny. I wouldn't be a rock star, no, I'd be, I'd work in film. Yeah, yeah, broadway, I could see that for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:So like that. I mean, I don't think everyone's meant to be a desk jockey, no.
Speaker 4:I mean nothing against that right. No, For some people they love it. It's great, it's structure, you know. They love having a guaranteed paycheck every two weeks and knowing what it is. And for me, I just I needed more freedom. I needed to be able to roam, I needed to be able to not sit still. So this route was drastically better for me. Yeah, Drastically.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I used to work in the corporate world as well. I didn't mind it. It's just not where my journey took me. I got into yoga just accidentally I just like doing it, and so I did teacher training, but I love where it led me, because now I don't think I could go back working. I've been rogue for too long. I think that's my problem. I've been rogue for too long.
Speaker 4:Yes, you don't have to answer to somebody you don't have to answer to the man.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's hard to go back to. It is so okay. So you left, started the fitness journey. What's that like Cause? I know in the beginning when you're green, it's kind of like you know it can be tough sometimes, kind of navigating and finding your own, your own voice, your own personnel, you know, like through training. How was that?
Speaker 4:It was rough. Yeah, this is not. You know, a lot of people are interested in fitness and then they get into it and they love it and then they think they want to be a coach. Great, being a coach isn't just working out, it's not how it works. And you find that out pretty quickly when you decide to become a coach. And it's hard. It's hard to get started, it's hard to make money. I mean, when I started, I worked for World Gym. That was my first coaching job and I didn't have any clients, so I had to go wait tables at night. I actually was one of Brock's first DJs and I DJed for him on the weekends. I was a bodybuilding judge, so I'd go to bodybuilding shows and judge and do stuff like that.
Speaker 3:So that's kind of fun.
Speaker 4:I stayed very busy and I had to work. I worked seven days a week for a long time just to make ends meet, because you know you have to build up clientele and you have to get people to trust you. And you know, when I first started I was stupid, I didn't know that. I did it. It worked out really well for me, but I mean, it's a hard industry to start in for sure, especially whenever you do have a college degree and you were making a decent income sitting behind a desk. It was hard, to hard to go that route because I remember I did it at 26 and my dad was like, if you need a place to stay, and I was like, thank you, but no no, I don't want to do that.
Speaker 1:I mean, that is what you give up, that stability, that stable paycheck, and you do just have to hustle and grind, and that is what you give up for your flexibility and freedom to do what you want, right. I love that you stuck with it, though, because I feel like a lot of people maybe do set out and probably don't keep going with it in the long term, so it seems like you really do have a passion for it yeah, it's, yeah, definitely, definitely the best decision that I ever made yeah.
Speaker 1:So those were kind of the struggles along the way, but how long after that did it take you to like what was like your big win, like your first big success in?
Speaker 4:I would say for me, whenever I had enough clientele that I could actually hire another coach to come on and help me out.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I think that was whenever I was like you know what, Like I feel, like I'm really moving, Like I actually need help. I can't do all of this by myself anymore. I think that's whenever I felt like okay, this legitimately can be a career for me, and I think that's whenever I really felt you know, based on what you're asking, like in that moment that I had made it, I guess.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and as far as like going to the gym versus personal training, it can be more expensive.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:What are the like? What are the perks? That kind of outweigh that cost.
Speaker 4:Well, I mean I've got some people. I mean just to give you an example, I've got a client that's trained with me four times a week for 12 years. She made for a long time. She does one-on-one and she has told me multiple times she's 71. Now she's told me she's going to come until I leave her or until she can't get up and go anymore. Yeah, and and realistically, I mean outside of the fact that I do the programming for her she probably doesn't have a grasp on how I put my programming together. I rarely have to coach her. I've coached her for 12 years. I don't have to do anything. But she has a place to be, a time to be there and somebody that's going to be texting her and calling her if she didn't show up, and for her that's worth that.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 4:Which you know, a lot of the other gyms, and I'm not necessarily picking on their models, but they're designed to find people that won't show up. Because, if you know, if you take like a planet fitness and again I'm not knocking them, but if all of the planet fitness members showed up, they could not house them. It's impossible. But if you're charging 10 or 15 or $20 a month, you have to get more members than what you can hold in order to actually make a profit, Right? So they're banking a little bit more on you not being there and still paying when. For me, it's the opposite, because the people that don't show up then they eventually stop paying.
Speaker 4:So I want them to be there and I'm going to stay on top of them and hold them accountable as much as I can.
Speaker 1:Accountability, I think, is the biggest piece, because if it's up to me, sometimes definitely not gonna go, I'm just admitting I'm a fitness like I'm someone that is accountability for others. But I feel like even the health professionals need to be trained 100 yeah, because you need that inspiration and that like molding as well.
Speaker 2:I was just gonna ask, speaking of inspiration and molding, like what what are some things that have inspired you as a personal trainer and has motivated you to keep moving forward? And maybe some of those like role models or influencers, or influences in your life?
Speaker 4:I mean for me, I've definitely had several. I've had a business coach since year two. That has been huge. You know, I got my degree in finance but it did not prepare me for running a business. And so you get out there and you realize, wait, I don't fully understand marketing, I don't fully understand sales, like there's a lot that you have to pick up. So the business coach has been huge for me. I don't know that I would have made it without it. You know, maybe now because information is a lot more accessible than it was in 09 when I first started, but that's been huge.
Speaker 4:I've worked with multiple coaches myself. You know cause, no matter how much knowledge or information I have, there's always more. You can always be better. You can always learn more. Whenever I first wanted to get into bodybuilding myself, I hired a coach to kind of help with my diet and help with my workout plan. When I got into powerlifting, I hired a coach that did all my powerlifting work and stuff like that, and and those have really been invaluable. They've been great because it it makes you look at things in a different way, because people you know different coaches view things differently. So it's it helps open you up a lot more and it's definitely been valuable. So if people come in and say, well, I don't need a trainer, well, this is how I make my living and I've needed trainers. So there are some people that can do just fine without them, of course, but we can all benefit for sure by having people that are smarter than us help us out so you competed like a bodybuilding competition.
Speaker 1:You just told my question.
Speaker 1:I was about to say that, but I was gonna ask it in a better way one of my best friends also competed and she told me a horrifying story about how her coach said she could only like just tilapia days leading up to her competition and almost made her like vomit. She still I don't she can eat it anymore, but she could only eat tilapia and I was like it's kind of making me sick thinking about it. But I saw her pictures and she looks so good so I guess it was worth it. I mean, when you're competing, I mean you gotta be really strict.
Speaker 2:It's only worth it if you're into it and you want to do it Right.
Speaker 1:This is true.
Speaker 2:True, like yes, if you don't want to be a bodybuilder, don't be a bodybuilder well, yeah, but if you want to be one go for it and it's just like a season or two. Yeah, and then yes, for sure, I think so and some people love it and keep doing it.
Speaker 4:That's for me. I dieted for it once. I didn't ever want to do that. Yeah, see, that's what I'm saying multiple people are like you're gonna love this, you're gonna so get into it and you're gonna keep. No, I literally, I had to be like a hobbit, because I couldn't go anywhere.
Speaker 3:I couldn't do anything you can't if I'm dieting.
Speaker 4:You can't put pizza in front of me and think I'm not going to eat it.
Speaker 1:Of course, I didn't, I just didn't go out.
Speaker 4:I mean, for six months I would go to work and I would go home and if people wanted to hang out, I'm like we have to go somewhere that doesn't revolve around food. You want to go see a movie? Okay, let's skip the snack line, we'll go see a movie. Like there's things we can do. You want to go outside? Okay, I'm not going to a restaurant with you, I'm not doing it.
Speaker 1:So, okay, I don't know, do you include nutrition in your Wait, wait, wait. I'm not done with the bodybuilding that?
Speaker 2:oh yeah, tell us, we want to know. Well, I mean, I haven't really maxed out in a while um or how much did you lift when you were like in the height of bodybuilding?
Speaker 4:well. So whenever I competed in powerlifting, I competed at uh 198 weight class and my squat was my weakest, so I'll start with that. I squatted 425 and my deadlift was 500 and my bench was 355.
Speaker 1:Oh, my gosh, I think I've only deadlifted like 120 pounds. Yeah, I've never done it and I don't even know if that's bad or good.
Speaker 4:Yeah I don't know, I mean I couldn't pull those numbers right?
Speaker 2:I don't, I don't lift that hard we can't do that yeah, all right, you can talk to him about nutrition.
Speaker 1:No, I was gonna ask like what you're, because there's literally so many opinions about food and what you eat and how you eat. I mean, some people are like it doesn't matter what you eat, as long as it's this many calories. It could literally be like a Twinkie. And then there's some people who are like, eat as many whole foods as you want, as long as it's not processed in a factory, you can't go wrong just eating unlimited apples and vegetables. And then I have some friends that are scared to eat an apple because of the carbs. So I'm just curious is that part of your training? Do you include nutrition in that, and what's your opinion about all these different diets?
Speaker 4:Yeah, you can't be a good coach and not include nutrition. You can't Because at the end of the day I'm sure you guys have heard a lot of people have heard can't out exercise a bad diet and you can't.
Speaker 1:I know I was thinking about that and I always try to do that yep I always I'm like oh I had a lot of wine.
Speaker 2:You look like you have a bad diet?
Speaker 1:oh no, I do. Well, it's not bad in what it's made of. I just enjoy food and wine a little too much, so I'm curious he's giving me the eyebrow. Here's the thing I'm like oh, I ate a lot of pasta last night. I should do like a lot of cardio today, because I remember in high school my coach would tell me that, like before we ran cross country.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you'd carve up, so I'm like okay.
Speaker 1:I better go like run today or something. I try to plan it out, but if I was good the night before, then I'm like maybe I'm not working out. You are cracking me up right now.
Speaker 4:It gets ingrained in you. Like you said, whenever you were younger and you were doing this and your coach was telling you that stuff sticks with you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's wrong. I know it is, I understand.
Speaker 4:And that's. I mean, that's part of what I deal with. I probably spend more time in nutrition trying to get false ideas out of people's heads than teaching them new ones. Because people come in and they always have these thought processes about what they need to eat and what they need to avoid, and for me, I mean I'm very much research based. I don't stick to a specific meal plan because technically it doesn't matter. It is calories in, calories out.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And the research is insanely clear. And usually if somebody tells you otherwise, one, they don't know any better. And usually if somebody tells you otherwise, one, they don't know any better. And I don't mean that drug is worry or two, they're trying to sell you something at the back end you know, because they're like well, X diet is the best. Now, here, by this book, by the supplement by whatever else.
Speaker 4:And for my clients, nutrition is included and I literally tell them when I sit down with them. I'm going to tell you exactly what the research says on randomized human control trials and if it changes which I don't think it will then I will change it and I'll let you know and we'll talk again.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:But in the short term. This is it because I have nothing left to sell. You're already paying for my program. You're already paying to work with me, the nutrition's included. This is how it works. So you know, like I said, you have to find something that's sustainable for people, because you have to deprogram people.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because if I knew everything about you, everything that was possible to know, and we did all the blood work and we did all the sensitivity tests for food and everything that was possible to do, and I gave you this list of food and I said stick with this and never eat anything else, and you're going to be to be. You know your ideal body weight and you're going to live to 200 years old.
Speaker 1:If you don't like the foods that are on there, you're not going to do it yeah, you just said if there's no wine, you're probably not going to stick to that, which is why I had a friend tell me years ago, if you don't give up wine, you'll never have a six-pack. I was like that's fine, because I don't want one, I'd rather have one I'd rather I know that's not true either I know, that's what I mean he's like.
Speaker 2:that's not true. You can have a six pack and wine. You can.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, that's the training I want to do.
Speaker 2:That is the training you very much can. You can do that with Dustin here.
Speaker 1:Well, I feel like people I'm just sharing my own personal insight, information and opinions that it's totally jaded me and made me just be like I'm just gonna do what I want to do. Do you know? It's like fatigue. I mean, it's like fatigue like one day eggs are good, the next day eggs are bad, or you know what I'm saying well, they're expensive right now, so yeah, so maybe don't buy the eggs, but just saying yeah.
Speaker 1:So that's why I was curious about the food aspect. So truly is just's just calories in calories out it is.
Speaker 4:I mean, it's a little bit more complex than that. Yeah, but at the same time it's also kind of not. Yeah, I mean we want to make things more complex, but it's not Well and I appreciate what you were just saying about.
Speaker 2:here's this list of things that you have to eat, based on all of these tests and reaching your ideal body weight. Have to eat, based on all of these tests and reaching your ideal body weight, but if you don't like those things, on that or for whatever reason, you don't like them, whether it's the taste, whether it's the texture, whether it's whatever. The problem is, you're not going to eat it, and that's so true.
Speaker 2:And so I think, helping people understand, like here's a balance of what's good to eat and here's finding those foods that you like within that balance seems like and not a really smart making carbs?
Speaker 1:the devil right, because they're not, I'm sorry, but is there anything better than like fresh baked bread with butter like?
Speaker 2:I don't know of any, okay, but that's still bread, of course.
Speaker 1:I was just taking it further for you my husband was just telling me that in france it's actually illegal for different like parishes or whatever you call them, to not have a bakery. Like bread is serious. You guys like people need their bread. People need their bread, so I'm like I have their wine. I've done diets before where I couldn't have bread and it like that. Then that's all I could think about you're miserable bread.
Speaker 4:Yeah, don't do it, oh no yep, you have to be able to find the balance.
Speaker 2:You have to so that's a misconception it's 100 of misconception what are some other misconceptions out there that? People have what are your top misconceptions that people have about?
Speaker 4:personal training top misconception. So if you move out of nutrition and into fitness, I would say probably the two biggest ones that I get is that people believe that they have to have this all or nothing mentality with fitness. Oh, I definitely do A lot of people think that they look at it as very much black and white, which I understand. You know, it's like my mind is in and I'm ready to go where it's not. But we can't rely on motivation because it's not going to be consistent.
Speaker 4:We have to be able to figure out how to create a habit how to create a routine, and you know there's absolutely nothing wrong with going to the gym five or six days a week for an hour and a half at a time, If you're able to do that and sustain it. The majority of the people that I work with, myself included, we have other responsibilities. We have spouses, we have kids, we have events that we go to, we have things that we want to do and for most people that's not realistic. Now, if you're able to do that, great good for you, Like that's phenomenal, but most people can't. So you have to look at, okay, what's realistic? What's the minimal effective?
Speaker 1:dose. What's the least amount of time that I can spend, you know, exercising?
Speaker 4:in the gym. What is that? What's the least I could exercise? So it depends on your goals.
Speaker 1:It depends on your goals, right kidding you know, I mean, if you totally kind of you know if you want to run a marathon no then you know your goals.
Speaker 4:Would change my personal opinion and also based on some pretty solid research, I would say three times a week of strength training for around 30 to 35 minutes.
Speaker 3:Okay, that's.
Speaker 1:It's kind of where that sweet spot is, which is what my entire program is based around, for that exact reason that's so doable that it's like there's no excuse not to work out.
Speaker 4:And that's exactly what we're looking for. Because we have to make it sustainable, because I've told people in the past that I'm like if you come in here and if your weight loss goal is to lose 20 pounds in six months and let's say that we do that, but then in 12 months you're up 40. I'm not a very good coach because what I gave for you I did not make sustainable. I did not keep it realistic for you and your goals long-term.
Speaker 4:And you have to be able to look at. I know everybody's like short term. I want to see the scale drop, I want to fit in these clothes, I want to do that and that's fine, Like it's okay to focus on those. But we can't lose sight of the longterm because nobody's sitting here thinking about well, what if I gain this weight back?
Speaker 4:You know we're talking about if you have to give up bread and you have to get a wine, and you do that for a certain amount of time and you get your. You hit your goal, but you've been thinking about that for the last three months. So now, for the next three months, you eat all the bread and wine, right?
Speaker 2:And that's usually what we see happen. It's figuring out okay how do we get you where you want to be?
Speaker 4:How do we move you in the direction we want to move you and still allow you to have some of these things that you want to have? Maybe we have to do a little bit less of it than what you've been doing, but not completely eliminate it.
Speaker 1:so that we can make it a little bit more realistic.
Speaker 1:You're looking for like a lifestyle change, but making it an approachable way. Yeah, not change, but making it an approachable way. Yes, yeah, because it's hard to do that on your own. Yeah, and I know what you mean about all or nothing, because I guess we're all birds of a feather. I totally operate that way, like if I'm in a workout program for myself and I totally just mess it up and I'm just off the wagon or whatever, like I'm like all right, that's it, I blew it. You know what I mean. Like I I won't. It's harder for me to get back into it because I feel like so defeated and then I beat myself up that I can't believe that I didn't make time for this and whatever it could be. You know how it is like sick kids or work is crazy or just whatever, or you're sick. You know what I mean, so I know what you mean the all or nothing it is.
Speaker 4:It's hard to work through that mentality, but at the end of the day, consistency is going to beat everything. It's always going to. It's kind of the same bet when you're looking at the type of workouts, the intensity. There are certain exercises that look really good on an Instagram reel, right? I know, but it's the basics, and doing them consistently is going to get you where you want to be.
Speaker 1:So what are your favorite type of workouts to incorporate in training? Is it just unique for each person or is there a certain style that you like, like HIIT or I know you mentioned strength. I'm used to doing kind of a not pure CrossFit, but like a very I don't know. It's kind of like that. It's a lot of like heavy lifting. I have a gym in my home. I love Peloton. I like to do a little of everything, but I know if you have specific goals, you should probably not do that. You should be more intelligent.
Speaker 4:Well, I mean, I wouldn't say it's unintelligent, but I think you're going to get better results if you focus. I know you're going to get better results if you focus mostly on the strength, If your overall goal is just to be healthier, increase metabolism, lose a little fat. You know, again, this is not anything sport specific or anything along those lines. You know, we're just talking general population, people that want to feel better, look a little bit better. Strength training is where your focus should be and the research really reflects that.
Speaker 1:So strength and like a little cardio kind of weaved in.
Speaker 4:Okay, and a lot of it depends on the amount of time that you've got. You know, if we're trying to do three times a week for 30, 35 minutes, maybe you don't have a lot of other time for cardio, so instead maybe you just try to increase your step count throughout the day.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And you count that towards your cardio because you know if you're only moving 3,000 steps a day and you don't have time for cardio. But now you realize, hey, I can walk around while I'm on my Zoom meeting, and now your steps have went to 8,000, 9,000 steps a day. You do that every single day. It's going to increase your caloric burn.
Speaker 1:I've heard nine is what you should go for every day. Is that what you know?
Speaker 4:It depends on the scenario Minimum it depends on. Yeah, that's literally sitting at a desk all day and moving 1,500 steps a day and they move to 3,000 or 4,000, they've doubled it, more than doubled it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:That's great, it's still better. That's still phenomenal.
Speaker 1:I know it's a move in the right direction. I need one of those treadmill desks.
Speaker 2:Oh, the little. Do you mean the? What is it called?
Speaker 4:It's just like a lot of people would fall. I know that would be my concern. Like that's got to be hard to move and then watch the screen and move your mouse and tap on a keyboard. Yeah, I feel like that would be a little bit of a struggle, but I mean I haven't tried it.
Speaker 2:So he underestimates women right now you're underestimating, just kidding, I'm just kidding, it's mostly women I've seen doing it. That's why saying that, yes, I saw a funny video of women.
Speaker 1:With one of those and it was like when you want to, when you have like a fitness goals, but you're also a mom and as a woman trying to fold laundry with like the eye patches on that machine and then like cleaning toilets on it, Like she was doing all the like mom, she's like I have all these things I have to do, but I also need to any busy person. They don't have to be, parents.
Speaker 1:I know training, having a trainer, is like the best first way, probably to have someone to help you, hold you accountable, to be consistent. What are some other ways, that things that maybe we can tell ourselves or do for ourselves to help ourselves be more consistent?
Speaker 4:More consistent. I mean, if you are not going to go the route of working with a coach finding a workout buddy, I mean that definitely helps are not going to go the route of working with a coach finding a workout buddy? I mean that definitely helps. You know you've got accountability there. One of the other things is putting it on your schedule. I mean a lot of us live by a calendar and one of the last things that we add is our exercise routine, because we're like well, I'll just squeeze it in where I can.
Speaker 4:And when we squeeze it in, it doesn't get squeezed in.
Speaker 1:That's exactly how it works for me.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean and that's the thing is. You know people say, well, you have to make exercise a priority. Well, of course you do. But if we're making, you know, work and dropping off the kids and cooking dinner and all these things are going on our calendar and all these things are a priority and fitness is not on there, then it's not a priority, right? Not, that's okay, you know. But if your overall goal is to try to be healthier and lose weight or, you know, whatever else you're reaching for, then you have to find a way to start making a priority.
Speaker 1:So do you train friends together? I do oh, let's go train together. Have you ever kicked anyone out because I could see us getting?
Speaker 2:no, we are not gonna get kicked out. We're gonna bring a lot of joy and light to the place, you know it yeah I can feel it. I can feel it, everyone would love it we can record a video and show our viewers, our listeners no, I love the idea of personal training.
Speaker 1:I have actually never hired a personal trainer, but I have swapped services in the past with friends of mine that, like I taught yoga, they would just take me the gym and we it wasn't. It was like less formal, we would just kind of do the workouts together. But I see the real value in it, and especially as I get older and I've been told by just my orthopedic doctor that I have to strength train and so.
Speaker 1:So it really makes you think about because my goals have changed. Like you used to have sports that you played different goals. I used to run cross country and so I just ran really I just ran.
Speaker 2:Just ran.
Speaker 1:Just ran as fast as I could. I mean, I don't know what else to say.
Speaker 2:I just swam as fast as I could.
Speaker 1:I never really thought about it, you, know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I threw balls as fast as I could exactly, but now that I'm getting older, you know I want to. I've heard that being sedentary is actually the worst thing you could like worse than anything you could ever eat, anything you could ever do and I saw this documentary about blue zones and one of the most common things they had is that everyone lives in an incline, so everyone was walking and getting their heart rate up. So I think that what you're doing is really important and you're probably changing a lot of people's lives.
Speaker 4:That's what I'm hoping for.
Speaker 1:Yeah, by doing that. Yeah, so how do you now that you are busy, because, okay, let's be real, it's like teachers when are? Okay, let's be real, it's like teachers, where are we going with this? As teachers, sometimes we neglect ourselves because we are so focused on other people. At least, this is my experience. Sometimes, when I get really busy, I need to go be a student of someone else. Is that something that you focus on to keep yourself in shape, inspired, or you just go do it all yourself?
Speaker 4:sometimes you have to, for sure. I mean, like I said, I've had a couple of other coaches in the past that have helped walk me through stuff. Hold me accountable. It depends on the scenario. I mean. For me, what's kind of my driving factor right now is in 2016,.
Speaker 4:I lost my little brother and it's okay and it, I mean, absolutely crushed me. I mean, he was my little brother, my best friend, and I was not good for a long time and after that happened, even though I was still running my gym, I didn't really hardly work out for a year and a half. I just didn't want it, didn't care. It was one of the things him and I talked about all the time, every day. I mean, he was very much into lifting and everything else, and so it was just mentally, it was I wasn't there.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And I remember and I know some of it is because I was just depressed over losing my brother, but I remember physically how bad I was and I just remember getting tired so much easier, not having the energy to do things, not having the drive to, not even to work out, but just to do hobbies that I enjoyed, just to the drive to get off the couch. Sometimes I was just like, oh, I don't want to do it, enjoy it just to the drive to get off the couch.
Speaker 4:Sometimes I was just like I don't want to do it, yeah. And when I finally forced myself to get back into some type of workout and try to get into some type of routine, I mean it wasn't two to three weeks and I felt like a different person.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 4:Yes, very much so, and so for me, I have that opportunity to know what it feels like when I stop. I mean, just like I said, my overall drive and energy levels for me, I mean the workout makes a huge impact on that for me.
Speaker 1:The mental part.
Speaker 2:Yes, and.
Speaker 4:I don't want to go back to that. So there are still a lot of days that I do not want to work out. There's other work that needs to be done, or sometimes I just don't want to do it. But I remember exactly what it feels like when I don't. And that's what drives you, and that's what drives me.
Speaker 1:It's just knowing that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean everybody's going to have a little bit different of a why.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Some of it may be. You know, a lot of times when people walk in the don't have a fat loss goal, they just want to move better, they want to feel better. You know what you were talking about. They would wake up in the morning and hurt and ache and they don't want that anymore. Or they have very sedentary jobs and they know that coming in required them to move and do more than what they were doing and they would just feel better in general by having a consistent exercise routine.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:And that was their goal. Their goal was literally show up here three times a week consistently, and that's it, and that's a great goal. Yeah, you don't always have to be trying to lose weight or increase. You know your pushup count or your squat count or whatever. You know you don't always have to have those goals. Sometimes just being there and showing up because you know how good it is for you and you know how much better it can make you feel.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it can be enough. Oh yeah, the mental part is why I do it. I always feel better after I work out.
Speaker 1:It's like impossible not to feel good because all the happy chemicals but, I feel like the body keeps the score and anytime I'm in a funk, I never want to work out and I just kind of want to like, like, just yeah, I want to. Just what do they call it now? Rotting, where you just sit on your couch and like, watch tv and veg out. You know what I mean? Like you just wanted to like, chill and not, but I feel like that actually makes you feel worse they can you gotta like get out there.
Speaker 1:I feel like just going outside just for a walk or whatever just feels so much better yeah, you know, I think it's balanced.
Speaker 2:I think for me, I would say that there are times when it's good to just sit down and like veg out and not have to think about anything yes but I think when people are doing that too often is when it's the problem when it becomes a problem like it's hard to do that too often as a parent, but I get what you're saying I know I was like when was the last time I sat down and just vegged out?
Speaker 4:Well, that's one of the things that I ask my clients sometimes, especially ones that are parents, I go. Is there ever a time that you don't feel like driving to pick your kid up from school or don't feel like taking them to a birthday party? I never feel that way, Desi, I've never never Sure, sure, sure, but the thing is, you do it, you still do it, and it's not any different with exercise.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's a good point.
Speaker 4:That's a really good point. There's lots of times you don't want to get them come to work. I mean, I love my job, I do, but there's a lot of days I'd rather just do what I want to do.
Speaker 4:I don't want to go to work for the because it's necessary and we look at things as like well, I've got to do this for my kid because they're my responsibility and I got to take care of them. We've got to do this for my job because this is how I make money and pay my bills and take care of my family. But whenever it comes to us and our health and our fitness and we're like, eh, not a big deal, Skip it today.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, that's so true, that actually gave me a different perspective about it. It's a good perspective. I was just listening recently to a podcast with Mel Robbins. Do you guys know who that?
Speaker 3:is.
Speaker 2:She's fantastic and she was talking about this thing that she adapted this five-second rule where she goes five, four, three, two, one launch and she makes the decision to just do something and then at that one launch and she just goes. She uses it best, as illustrated, when your alarm is going off in the morning. So your alarm goes off, you hear it instead of hitting that snooze, turn it off. You go five, four, three, two, one and you get out of bed and you just go and it was just it's been very encouraging like listening to some of her stuff recently and just that idea of like just doing things because we need to do them and they are good for us and and that motivation is just a feeling and we're not going to ever have the motivation to do this probably not, probably not, and so we just have to do it.
Speaker 4:It's kind of like the nike slogan just do it sometimes that is the hardest part right it's just moving. Yeah, just getting up and going. I mean, yes, I've never had anybody leave my gym in over 15 years and say I should have just stayed at home. Everybody's always glad they showed up.
Speaker 1:Always glad they showed up.
Speaker 4:They're always glad they got it done, they always feel better. Most of it is just when you're in that funk. It's like if you are sitting on the couch and sometimes it's just getting up Like there's things that I'll need to do outside or on my house and I'm like man, I just don't feel like doing it. And then once I get up and start doing it, then I'm fine. Yeah, 99 times out of 100.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, If.
Speaker 4:I just get up and start doing it. I'm fine.
Speaker 2:And every time when I've done it, I'm like man, I'm glad I didn't just sit on the couch. How many trainers are in your studio or with your gym, and what kind of classes do you offer? Or is it just one-on-ones, or if we come in together or if we bring a group of friends, like a mom's night or something? What are the opportunities that exist at Precision Fitness?
Speaker 4:So we've got several coaches and we mostly focus on semi-private groups. So we're two to six people. It's kind of like our sweet spot. You can still personalize training if you keep the group small, individualize it to each person, help them reach their goals. But it becomes much more cost-friendly. One-on-one, when you're taking 30, 45 minutes of one person's time, tends to get a little bit more expensive. We do have some one-on-one, but it's definitely not our core offering. The semi-private is, like I said, the smaller groups of two to five and still individualizing everything. It's still personal training, but you just get it around a few other people and at a much, much friendlier price.
Speaker 2:Yeah, do you also find that there's a little bit more? We've been talking about motivation, but is there more motivation when there are more people, and that energy Is there like a different kind of energy when there are more people or a smaller group versus one-on-one?
Speaker 4:Yeah, there definitely can be. Some of it just depends on the individual. I mean, I have some people that walk in and say I want one-on-one or nothing else, and then I have other people that are, you know, they want the group because there can be a little bit more energy. It really depends on what people need more than anything else, and that's the only reason why I've offered both. So for the people that come in and have different desires and I've had some people come in and do one-on-one for a little while and then switch to group or vice versa They'll do the group and well, I need you paying attention to me 100% of the time which is fine, I mean it just depends on what each person needs and where they're going to fit best and get what they need.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, that's good to know.
Speaker 2:That's really good to know you ready to go? I'm a group of girls.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's do this, all right.
Speaker 2:We're going to do this. We're going to come in together and you're going to train us.
Speaker 4:All right.
Speaker 1:For no rhyme or reason oh you want to compete with me?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, bring it on, that's fine.
Speaker 1:Hey, whatever motivates, Just see how much I can lift with my legs, I know, although my knees are not what they used to be at all. Oh no, mine cracks now when I go downstairs.
Speaker 2:I don't know why that just started, I know. So basically I'm just like Dustin, can you just make it so I don't hurt anymore.
Speaker 1:I know that's a good reason. Actually it is a great reason.
Speaker 2:It really is a great reason and as I get older and kind of just, you know like, as my body changes and as I like recognize those changes more and more, it is something that's important to me. Like I, you know, like I'm not going to play competitive sports probably ever again in my life, and that's fine. I'm not, I don't have a desire to, unless it's pickleball, yeah, no no, that's what everyone's playing. I know that's.
Speaker 2:I think that's probably why I don't want to play, because I'm like yeah everyone is doing it but you know, just to like feel better I think it's the goal and to and to just live a healthy life and to be the best mom I can be and to be the best wife I can be, and to keep up with our kids me I can be, you know, and I think that that's a big goal, yeah, but we've really enjoyed having you here today and I think we definitely need to follow up with, like in person we do.
Speaker 1:I need to learn how to do pacers because my kids are trying to train to get their best pacer time. I don't know what they are. This, this is what they do. This is what they do at school now.
Speaker 2:I don't know. She's competing with her children now. Listeners, can you hear this?
Speaker 1:No, no, no, I just want to try to motivate them, because if I try to run ahead of them or do something, then they run faster.
Speaker 2:I know You're just going to push them and push them. I do. It's actually great. I love that.
Speaker 1:They don't do well when I try to challenge them with my words. But if I just compete, you know, then they'll do it, so okay, Well, thank you for coming in today. Is there anything else you want to share? Maybe your handles or how people can find you if they want to train with you?
Speaker 4:Yeah, sure, if they can find us online, precisionfitnessnwacom, it's going to be the best way to get ahold of us. They can call email text anything.
Speaker 1:Okay, great Thanks for being on the show.
Speaker 4:Thank you.
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