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Jessica Uranga - Thrifting Becomes A Mission When You Build Community First
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We sit down with Jessica Uranga to talk about how thrifted fashion can build real confidence, create dignified community, and fund local nonprofit partners. We also unpack how Purpose Brands 414 scales mission-driven retail from women’s styling to family affordability and a new men’s thrift concept launching soon.
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Spring Cleaning And Personal Style
SPEAKER_05Danielle, now that the weather has changed, have you done any spring shopping or spring cleaning?
SPEAKER_04For sure, for sure. I actually have done some spring cleaning. I did like a spring edit on my closet. I was inspired by actually an art a little article that we put in our magazine in April about doing picking like one area and just doing kind of a big clean of it. And so I did my closet, which was so much fun. And I found clothes that I forgot I had, which is always a joy. Reorganized things. And my daughter was like, What are you doing? I thought you were tired. I thought you were going to bed. No, I am deep cleaning and reorganizing my closet.
SPEAKER_05Our guest today knows all about fashion. Her name is Jessica Uranga or Yuranga. And she is with Beautiful Lives. And also she runs, and that's under the umbrella of the nonprofit Purpose Brands 414. So welcome in.
SPEAKER_03I'm excited to talk all things fashion, spring, and whatever else we have today.
SPEAKER_05And you can't say but she looks very fashionable in the studio today. Yes, she does. Even though it's freezing cold. I love a good sleeve. I do love a good sleeve.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, well, it's funny because before we got on air and we were talking, I was telling them about somebody who loved a dress I was wearing the other day. And actually, the dress I was wearing was almost identical to the top you were wearing, but as a dress and in white. Nobody can see what beautiful I'm talking about right now. But we can imagine we know. Oh yeah. But I love I love a good sleeve and a poof sleeve and see I love a poof sleeve, but every time I wear one, my husband looks at thinks it looks like wild.
SPEAKER_05Maybe I just go too big with the too big. They got a toe. Come on, Elliot sleeves down. You know what, Elliot? No. Right? Yeah, I mean, he doesn't claim to know about fashion.
SPEAKER_03I know there's times where I'm like, Eric, what do you think? And then other times I'm just like, this is what I'm wearing. Don't ask me. I'm so pretty. I'm not gonna own it.
SPEAKER_04I'm so pretty. At least he's not like, what are you wearing?
SPEAKER_03I mean, there have been times. There have been times. In fashion, you can almost, I mean, there are times where I just try something to think, you know what, I'm in fashion. I can probably get away with this and just see how it goes.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. I think that's a great idea. Well, it's really fun to have you in the studio and really fun to have you here in Northwest Arkansas.
Jessica’s Origin Story And Peanut Farming
SPEAKER_04We love to start off our podcast just kind of asking our guests, like, how did you end up here? Like, what brought you to Northwest Arkansas? Did you grow up here? What's kind of your origin story?
SPEAKER_03Yes. So I actually grew up mostly in New Mexico. This so the state of New Mexico, and my dad was a computer programmer back when that was a really big thing. And so he had an opportunity to move our family to Colorado, and so we lived in Colorado before things even were booming there. And so it was neat to experience part of my childhood in the mountains. I was actually actually a missionary kid for a little while in the country of Mexico, and so went to language school and just learned more about the Mexican culture, and we worked with children's homes down there, and then though, so through a series of events, we came full circle back to New Mexico, which is also where my parents were raised, and we're helping my grandparents with a peanut mill. So I also grew up in like I have some farming background, and over time met my husband there, and he was moving to Arkansas. And so when we decided to get married, Arkansas became home.
SPEAKER_04Wow.
SPEAKER_03I have so many questions. Mainly about the peanut.
SPEAKER_04I need to ask about the peanuts.
SPEAKER_03I can tell you all about peanuts. So wait, but you met your husband.
SPEAKER_04And you have to very enunciate that very well too. Peanuts, especially in front on a microphone. Like you need to make sure this is very clear. We are talking about peanuts.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yes, yes. Farming, agriculture, agriculture, yes, grows in the ground. Yeah, it's really cool. You some people don't know this, but peanuts actually grow in the ground like a root. Okay. So kind of picture like a carrot. And then we would do where they would sun dry, and so it was a big deal to like they would turn them over in the field and let them, the sun would kind of dry them out. So that was a big deal. And then there's different kinds of peanuts. So you might know like the jumbo peanut, but they're not as flavorful as the Valencia peanut. And so we specialized in the Valencia peanut, which was a little bit smaller, and we shipped them to farmers markets all throughout the US and Canada.
SPEAKER_04That's so awesome. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03My grandpa started that. And so it's I love that.
SPEAKER_04That's a great story. I love stories.
SPEAKER_05I really miss the restaurants where you could just have peanuts. Yeah, and there were the shells were on the ground. All those allergies. In the barbecue. I know. Oh I know.
SPEAKER_04My daughter has a peanut allergy. So we live in the case. So whenever I take like my son out and we go do stuff, I'm like, you want to go get some peanut butter? This is your indulge. Let's go indulge in some peanuts.
SPEAKER_03It was always a part of my life growing
Moving To Northwest Arkansas And Putting Down Roots
SPEAKER_03up.
SPEAKER_04So cool. All right. So when you got married, so you got married, moved here, started your family. Yeah. So what what brought why did your husband want to move to Arkansas?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. So he had some friends in some community that was moving to Arkansas to actually help with a small church here. Okay. I moved here, started working like bivocationally, helping out a little bit with the church, and then working. And then over time, he transitioned into Walmart. And so started working at Walmart. And that's really what helped us. Like our roots went deep after that. And so things just took off from there. He grew in Walmart and had a lot of great opportunity. And from there went to the vendor community. And so the rest has been history. He's been there ever since. At one point, we didn't think we would stay. And that was like prior to having kiddos. And then once we started having kiddos and watching the community take off, like here's the thing we I remember when Crystal Bridges came in. And I was like my first year here. And I remember thinking, like, why is everybody talking about this? And then I realized over time, like, this is a big deal for Northwest Arkansas. Five four it was like 540 before it was I 49. So we kind of were here when we got to see some of those changes happening. And so it was pretty cool. And then now I can't imagine having left. Like we love it so much.
SPEAKER_04It's such a great place. That's such a common theme with people that move here and we have these conversations. Even the two of us, you know, it's like we, you know, can't imagine couldn't imagine moving here in the first place, in some regard, or didn't want to, or had, you know, or whatever the story is. And then now at that point of like, I don't know that I can imagine myself living anywhere else. So I really love this place. Although I mean, if I had the opportunity to like live on the beach, that might be a little bit of like it's a beach symptom. No, like beachfront, beachfront property, tropical islands. Both. I mean, yeah, both, definitely.
SPEAKER_03That's where I'm like the second home, maybe monsoon season. Yeah, that's true.
SPEAKER_01Highs, lows.
SPEAKER_04That is true. There's so much accuracy there. So, what about your journey? So, you came, how did you get into what you're doing now? Like, what does that path
Motherhood And Finding Purpose Through Work
SPEAKER_04look like?
SPEAKER_03So, I think I grew up in a family. I mean, watching even my grandfather with the peanut mill, watching my dad and my parents, they were there was always a lot of entrepreneurship in my family. I was homeschooled, and so, and then being on the field, I think there was just a lot of times where we thought outside of the box, we tried things, we were adventurous, and so that kind of leads down the path of entrepreneurship in a lot of ways. And so, even after getting married, just thinking through like what could I do here in Arkansas? And things are booming and things are happening, there was just a lot of opportunity to dream and to think. And I had opportunity to work in ministry for a little while. I mean, we had kiddos pretty quickly. Eric and I have been married almost, it'll be 15 years this year, but we have five children. And when we first started talking, and I would be curious to even hear from you guys because it's always so fun to hear this. But when you have kind of the talk, we're like, how long is it gonna be before we have kids? And I was kind of that non-negotiable like, I want five years, I want to do business, I want to, I want to start some things. And it was just fun to see like what God's story was for us. And so we actually wound up getting pregnant that first year, very unexpected. And our sweet first baby, we found out at birth that she has Down syndrome and Hersprung's disease, which is even more rare. And so that is a big part of my story, and I think what led me to even more opportunity for entrepreneurship or even just leaning into different opportunities to work along the way while also raising my babies and still being a really good mom. But I longed to work, I love business and I love working. So I had opportunity to work a couple of different opportunities at churches. I had an opportunity to work in a nonprofit, fell in love with the nonprofit sector because I felt like this is what I love about loving people well while also marrying that with business. I had the opportunity before COVID to help with a Mother's Day Out program when my kiddos were little. So my kiddos got to be there with me, but then I got to use my business mind and I moved into the director of that position. And then COVID came, completely shut that down for a season, and that's when I transitioned. A friend called me that was helping with Beautiful Lives at the time. Beautiful Lives had been established for about four years at this point, and a lot of the leadership and the women who had started each of the locations. So there's three locations during 2020, and they reached out and just said, Hey, we're going through a lot of leadership change. I would love for you to come and just start working part-time. And I thought, I could do that. Like my kids are kind of home. Who knows what's going to happen this year? And but it was missing community, and so that's really what drew me to Beautiful Lives was being around other women and community. And then I just had a lot of open doors at that point to grow within the organization.
SPEAKER_04That's so awesome. I love it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. I've actually been shopping there for years, so I'm really excited to meet you. Yeah, thank you. Because someone had told me about it a few years ago, and then I just started telling more of my friends about it, and they would just keep telling me about all the awesome little gems that you can find
Beautiful Lives Thrift Boutique Explained
SPEAKER_05there. But you have to go, it's like, you know, you have to go constantly.
SPEAKER_03Yes, just like thrift. I mean, it's so fun, and that's one of the things we really we restock every single day. So you truly could go in every day and find something new that wasn't on the floor yesterday. Yeah. And then we have new collections that we do every week. And so every Monday we we drop a new collection, which is a new theme, like maybe it's outdoorsy or maybe it's prints, and so we curate for weeks to get ready for that collection based on donations coming in. And so it's a lot of fun to be really creative in that space.
SPEAKER_05And then for those that haven't been or don't don't know much about it, give like your just short elevator pitch or explanation of what it is.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so Beautiful Lives Thrift Boutique is an upscale shopping environment for women of all backgrounds, all demographics, all stories to come and to find and to feel beautiful, but at a thrifted price point and at a price point that she can afford and feel really good about. And so your average price point is gonna be anywhere around like seven, ten, twelve dollars for some really beautiful items. And so our heart is that she can come in and just feel so reminded of that she is beautiful, that she is worthy. We want to call her by name, we want her to feel dignified from the moment she walks in. And I mean, we even like something that's different is we don't have shopping carts. Like we're gonna take items and go start a dressing room and put her name on her holds. And so just I think as humans, especially too, as we move through the world and we're fast advancing in tech and we love that, but we also we miss some of the interaction with just what it means to connect with each other and to feel seen and then to feel known. And so if this can be a space where women can come in and feel like they're seen and known and reminded they're beautiful, like that, that is everything. And I think thrift is we talk about this often, we're like thrift is just the how, but loving people well and sharing hope and truth. That's that's the why.
SPEAKER_04I love that.
SPEAKER_03I know it's not perfect.
SPEAKER_04And we'll just tie that little bow up and we are done. Now if I aren't done because there's so much more to what she's building than just beautiful lives.
SPEAKER_05Yes, that's true.
SPEAKER_04So you you got involved in beautiful lives, then you started Purpose Brands 414.
Building Purpose Brands 414 To Scale
SPEAKER_04How and what was the purpose behind starting that? And why don't you tell us about what all purpose brands for 14 does and how it is kind of the overarching of all these amazing things you're building?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, thanks for asking. So I think I knew so Beautiful Lives was started underneath a church, New Heights Church in Fayetteville, for years. And so Melody Taylor is our original founder. I always love to honor her. I'm so thankful for her original vision. She started Beautiful Lives in 2016 in collaboration with New Heights, and it was through COVID and through a lot of change in 2021 and 2022. And I actually, we were surprised by having a fifth child. So our little girl, our youngest, she was a big surprise. And I was really wrestling at the time, loved, loved, loved what I was getting to do at Beautiful Lives, but really thought, okay, am I going back for maternity leave? Am I really gonna do this? Like, am I gonna regret that I'm going back into work? Am I gonna miss time with her? But I really felt like I needed to go back. And yet everything comes back to like stewardship. I wanted to make sure that I was gonna leave the organization in such a way that if I did at some point feel like I could lay it down and I could walk away from it, was I gonna leave it better than I found it? And was I gonna leave it in a way that it could continue to scale? And so, in researching and talking with it, it was really a conversation with an attorney and a CPA who just, I'm so thankful for their wisdom. And I think it was just really a divine timing conversation. And they started asking me questions. They're like, Jessica, even just in the little bit we've been talking to you, you've mentioned a couple of other initiatives or ideas. Like, what else are well like lay down the fact that you are so fixed on getting beautiful wives like out from under the church in its own established 501? What else, what else do you have like in your heart? And so just even the permission to start sharing and envisioning, I was like, okay, well, there's bull dives, men's thrift, which will be for men. And then there's this other concept that I have in mind for kids, and then there's this in mind for, you know, all these. And they were like, okay, what if like in the business world you'd have a you'd have a business, and then you might have subsidiaries. What if you do that in the nonprofit world? So you establish one 501c3, you have one 990, you have one board of directors, but then you have all these programs and initiatives that come forth from that, and that will set it up to scale, to grow, whatever, whatever comes. And so that's when we started, that was very helpful for me to zoom out. And from then on, I mean, it changed the entire trajectory of what I was focused on doing.
SPEAKER_04That is so awesome. That's how that is why we get along because I totally think in the same terms of things of like, how can we just go bigger and bigger and bigger and like what's my thing? Yeah, this umbrella just well. I remember this past year somebody called me a media entrepreneur, and I was like, oh, that's good. That's perfect. I'm like, let's be a little bit in film, let's be a little bit in podcasting, let's be a little bit in magazines, let's be a little bit of everything media related, and it's it's been fun. So I love hearing your story. Tell us a little bit about how you're balancing all of it. Being a mom, you have five kids. What are their ages again? Did you say that yet?
SPEAKER_03So our oldest, she is just turned 13. So we have I'm a teen mom. That's been, I'm like, oh my goodness. You did not waste time. No, no, we did not. And then we have three boys. So our we have Samuel is 11, Ian is 10, Caleb is seven, and then our surprise little girl, Bella, is currently three.
SPEAKER_04All right.
SPEAKER_03So with that, we had five within 10 years of each other. You look so wild, put together, refreshed because she has a huge team. We do.
SPEAKER_04She's got a huge team that's worth it.
SPEAKER_03I mean, honestly, I think Powerhouse women get things done. I mean, yeah, our team is fantastic. Our team is fantastic. And yeah, they're incredible. So, as far as like the things that happen inside the organization, there is so much that's happening every single day that I and I'm so thankful. Like, as we've grown, there are times where used to, I knew a little bit of everything that was going on. And now it's a little bit different stage of even leadership, of learning, like, oh, I actually have no idea what's going on in that department, other than at a very high level, just because it's some updates, and they're rocking it out. And so I would say the beauty too of empowerment, allowing women to really get in there and run and own it and allow their dreams to come to life is just a really beautiful thing.
SPEAKER_04Yes. 100%. I was just having a conversation with somebody about this, but actually earlier today, about the idea of empowering leaders, empowering people to kind of take on ownership of the things that they're working on. And that is so meaningful when you get those opportunities
Closet Staples Styling Help And Confidence
SPEAKER_04to do that.
SPEAKER_05And I I think that clothes is empowering too. And I want to kind of go back to when how you're taking it back. Well, I know. Well, to the beginning of the episode when we were talking about a closet refresh. Oh, yeah. I am a big believer in your environment, and as I get older, I'm becoming more self-aware of how I'm dressing myself in public. Maybe I wasn't so much when I was a new mom.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, there is grace. And nowadays you paid out of the house.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I got to shower today.
SPEAKER_04That's what matters most.
SPEAKER_05I think that so we're talking about a closet overhaul, and I like to do, and I think most people like to do this every year, and everyone has their o their own rules about if you haven't worn it a year, or two years, or six months, or maybe I'm gonna fit into that again, or I bought that new and I didn't wear it, but should I still hold on to it? So, anyway, we have all these things that we think about, and I was thinking that empowerment can also look like having a closet with staples and clothes that you know how to build outfits with, and also at an accessible price point because even though the growth in Bentonville is great, it's in you know, I know that many there's many different people and departments and areas at work on making it more affordable. But clothing being affordable is an amazing, you know, thing to have, you know, available here in the community. So I'm curious how somebody could build a capsule or maybe just have the you know, three shirts, three pants, three jackets. You know, what what could women do to empower themselves to build that or to harness that in their closet to feel just better and like less to worry about?
SPEAKER_03Yes. Well, and when we're confident and when we love what we wear and how we feel, we show up differently, whether you know that's at work or that's with our friends or have beautiful lives. So one of the things that you'll notice when you walk in, and we've even had women make this comment about like, wow, it feels like a real life Pinterest. And so with those collections that I mentioned, or even just with our team, we train around putting the outfits together on a single hanger that are all similar sizes. So she can truly walk in, pick up the entire outfit. And if she loves all of it and feels confident in every single piece, she can take an entire outfit home. And we've had so many women, they're like, I never would have put this together on my own. And so, to your point about like helping them feel empowered, helping them, there's even times where our team will say, I know that you're gravitating towards this color, but have you thought about this color before? And just really coming alongside. And I think oftentimes when we're in the fashion world, when we're trying things on, where we're around clothes, we just it's like it's a lot of fun when we can do it with another girl right by our side and just be like, oh my goodness, wow, thank you so much for thinking of me when you saw that. And I never would have picked that off. Yes, and tell me, does it really look good in the back? Because I can't, we need that. Yes. The amount of times that we get asked, like, can you help me zip this up or can you help me get out of this?
SPEAKER_05You know, and it's so fun to just get to be girls with panic attacks when I can't get something over my head. Yeah, it's it could be scary.
SPEAKER_04It's a real fear. It's a real fear.
SPEAKER_05It's like claustrophobia. I mean, there are certain parts of my body that I'm like, I panic about because especially if one arm is out and and it's over your head, and you're doing a little dance, like trying.
SPEAKER_04How am I gonna get out of this situation? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. What's funny is any of the men listening to this are gonna be like, we literally have no idea about that.
SPEAKER_05But no, it's like the line dress, too, and the line stuff. Oh, so many layers. If I can't figure out how to try it on, I'm definitely not buying it. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_06I'll never had that.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_06Yes.
SPEAKER_03Well, and there are times that we'll have a piece and we're like, this piece is stunning, but she continues to come back out from the dressing room, and then we just realize like they must be the fit. Something is not representing the piece. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05Okay, so what do you think? What are your closet staples? Like, what are the things that you rotate? Because I'm so I mean, I feel like I am just a jeans in a white.
SPEAKER_04I have so many white shirts. Oh, so many white, so many white white or black shit. White, black, or like a tan or a beige.
SPEAKER_03So I was gonna say, like, it's very similar to what you're showcasing today. I love it. It's classic, very classic.
SPEAKER_04It's beautiful, you know.
SPEAKER_02It is very shirt.
SPEAKER_04It's very you, too. That's that is what you like to wear.
SPEAKER_05I always like to dress more, yes. And I, but I would I feel like in my head I'd like to be more feminine and ethereal, but like I don't know if what I'm thinking I'd like to dress like would fly in just modern clothing. You know, like you know what? Who cares?
SPEAKER_02Like I was gonna say, if you just watch the Met Gala, I mean you can get away with whatever. That's true.
SPEAKER_04The Met Gala we had a lot of watch this year's theme phenomenal.
SPEAKER_05I loved it. I loved it, and I love getting on TikTok and just like rate the outfits. Go. People are so judgy, and I love it. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_04It was one of the best years in a long time. It was very creative. I love it. Some though. I mean, there were some really weird ones for 100%. Yes. Some were kind of bland and boring, and then some were a little like a little bit for me stole the show.
SPEAKER_05I think she was the best dress, personally, but we're getting way off. Yeah, we are just like. Do you see her? Yeah. Her dress in the Watson.
SPEAKER_04Trying to think.
SPEAKER_05Gorgeous. Her her dress was like a flowing painting. Short blonde hair. Yes.
SPEAKER_03Like piercing blue eyes. Anyway, just look, just Google. I will Google it on the Instagram carousels right now from all of the like baby ones. They're like, This is the mom who woke up in the middle of the night. This is the mom whose kids. Got into the paint.
SPEAKER_02It has been really fun to see everyone. Slayed. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Slayed from the waist down, partially slayed. No, if my Merry Christmas. Once my husband listens to this, like hearing your question about like my staples, he would be like, What staples? Like the amount of things. Okay, stables. You just I just wrote, I mean, and I yeah, I have way too many clothes for the case. Okay, so I want it to be like this.
SPEAKER_04What's your Enneagram? I'm a three. Okay. Oh, that yes, that trick. That trick.
SPEAKER_05Now you're seeing. Yeah. Okay. I need to see your closet. I need inspiration because I did the unthinkable where you're like, I'm gonna pull everything out and we're just going to just overhaul hack, overhaul this closet. And I made the mistake of doing it on a day where I didn't have the time. And so now it's just everything is out. And it is horrifying. And I just avoid it.
SPEAKER_04I have someone you could call to help. You do? Yeah. Yeah, they can help you. Slutter away, obviously.
SPEAKER_05Oh, but see, I need to try on.
SPEAKER_04Oh, well, we could bring Elizabeth in, who helped us with styling glass. Oh, I'm not sure. I've actually thought about that.
SPEAKER_03Like to have a stylist be like, yes or no. And she's been a runway designer here in Northwest Arkansas. And so that she does, she kind of pushes the envelope a little bit, but she knows your body shape and what you're looking for. And so she really tries to bring that out. She's wonderful. But she's who style at the latest Beakaban magazine, and it looks stunning. It did look stunning.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Okay. Well, I think clothes, you know, and confidence are just directly linked. And I think that the swing away from athleisure is a good thing. Not that I'm hating on athleisure. I have been like one of the number one supporters and wearers of athleisure. I have. And I still do. Yes. However, I am trying to just wear my athletic wear to the gym now. That is my personal belief. And I'm just trying to, you know. Yes. I'm trying to just put myself together more, make more of an effort. And honestly, I like it. It's feeling good. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04You should feel good in what you wear.
SPEAKER_03Yes, but now I have more time. When the kids were a little fair. Definitely not. Yes. It is. It's almost like putting together an art piece. And there are times where I'm pulling it together. I have to really lean into kind of that creative side, especially if I'm really wanting to kind of push it and try something new.
SPEAKER_04Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_03It's really neat yourself time to feel that out.
SPEAKER_04How what do you love about what you're doing right now?
SPEAKER_03Oh goodness. That I mean, that list could go on and on. I think it brings one of the things, the key things about PurposeBrains 414 is multiplying leaders, so like developing people, multiplying them. And not just hopefully, I mean, hopefully they stay for a long time within the organization, grow with the organization. But one of our commitments is that even if they launch, we'd call it launching into another opportunity or something, a lifelong dream that they've had, that they would leave better than we found them. So it feels like that commitment that we have even in store when we interact with every woman who chooses to come in, it goes all throughout the organization. And I think that's that's my heart, that's our heart. Yeah, in every aspect.
SPEAKER_04I love that. I love just this whole conversation about clothing and confidence and feeling good about ourselves. And what I love about it is what you're what's happening at Beautiful Lives and walking in and people seeing the clothes and the outfit setup, the people that are working there, and the volunteers and the workers who are helping you to make decisions and people like Elizabeth who can come in and give expert advice, and there's just all these amazing things happening. I want to talk about some of the nonprofits that you're working with that you are helping at. And the reason why I'm bringing this up is because I was in there one time when there was a group of women coming and your team
Nonprofit Partners And The Tip Model
SPEAKER_04was working with them, and the group needed that, needed people to say, Hey, you look beautiful in this, and you are beautiful, you're a beautiful soul, and you have this beautiful clothes on, and you are a beautiful life. Sorry. But I want to hear about that because I think there's something so amazing about the different organizations that you're working with in within that space.
SPEAKER_03And I think that comes back to kind of the underlier too of like developing confidence, developing even those young women or whatever, whatever walk of life anyone's in, bringing them in and saying, I'm gonna meet you right where you are, and what are your hopes for today? And then also like, how can we come alongside you? And so that organization, there's a couple of different ones that will come in and they'll bring a group of women and we get to style them, we get to help them like figure out what are your goals this season? Are you applying for a new job? Okay, what is that job? How do you need to dress for that job? And even do a little bit of teaching or coaching around what does it look like to dress like a professional professional? And it's really encouraging and it's so beautiful to see. And so we do we have 10 organizations currently that we are coming alongside that are empowering women. So far, they've focused on women through Beautiful Lives. And then now that we're transitioning some things over to Purpose Brands 414, we are opening it up for the first time. We've not done this before to where we now have live applications. We're gonna accept four more nonprofits that are also serving men and serving families. And so we'll be able to come alongside in a broad and beautiful way. But yeah, it's really amazing when like Saving Grace is one of them, or we've got to come alongside Havenwood, one of our junior partners. We have 10 partners that we give to monetarily and get the opportunity to be spotlighted for an entire month. And so if you come in and you choose to shop at the end when you're checking out, you might be asked, like, would you like to leave a tip? And the tip does not go back to our team, it does not go back to our organization. That tip is a direct donation to the organization that's being spotlighted that month. And so it's really beautiful. Like we absorb the processing fees for that. And so if you give $2, that full $2 goes to that organization. I would say the empowering aspect on both sides of that. We do have women coming in that are maybe on a tight budget. And then being asked if you would like to give to something that doesn't start at a $25 threshold or a $50 threshold is also so empowering. They're like, I would love to leave a gift today and not feel less than that it's only $2 because that $2 adds up. And we've been able to give partner gifts of anywhere between four and six thousand dollars on average a month. And so it's really beautiful to truly even speak that back out of like everybody's little together makes a lot.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it does. Wow. That's like the one time you see a tip and you're like, okay, I can get behind that.
SPEAKER_04I can get behind that tip.
SPEAKER_05No, I'm kidding. I I love to tip people. I'm not I'm not saying I don't like to tip, but you know, sometimes it's it's excessive, but this I like like the and the fact that it's a hundred percent, you know, there's no processing.
SPEAKER_03Bully, yeah, yes, yeah, we absorb that so that they receive that full gift. So then those are our partners, and it's really beautiful because they get the opportunity to be spotlighted on a on a platform that we've been gifted, and we have a lot of followers, we have a lot, we have a lot of opportunity to share. And and so for them to get to be a part of that, and some of them are smaller nonprofits and they don't have as big of a platform. And so I think that also even just comes back to the empowerment of like, here, come, like share my stage, like let's go together and we truly are better together. And and then we have junior partners, and so while they don't receive some of the same benefits of being that direct partner, they do get the opportunity to get in-kind gift certificates. And even with that, we don't call them vouchers, they're gift certificates because we want them to walk in and say, I have a gift certificate to shop. Because even that feels different or to get to check out at the end of like, I have a gift certificate, and so it's really exciting. And so we have an opportunity to serve them as well and host them sometime in the evening, is when they feel like it's a little bit after hours, they can come and they get to let their hair down a little bit more and just feel really comfortable shopping and feeling beautiful.
SPEAKER_04That's so awesome. I really love that. There's so many questions, there's so much we can talk about today. It's like I want to ask you like who your favorite designers are. Oh, I have games on all of those things because I I feel like you've
Thrifting Sustainability And Thrift Out
SPEAKER_04had to lean into that, you know, learning more and more because you have to learn about the brands and learn about just the different price points of how to how to value them.
SPEAKER_05And and and I think favorite designers, I mean yeah, I mean, you could ask it as like uh affordable amid ultra luxury, ultra luxury, like if you had no budget. If you had no budget, these dresses could be it's the price of a car.
SPEAKER_03Yes, it is and isn't it wild, like fashion truly, and some of even the looks we were we were talking as a team, just even the looks on like the Matt Gala, like I wonder how much they paid for that dress. You know, it's truly like fashion can range just vastly. Oh, yeah, I mean it's a wild so what's yours?
SPEAKER_04Because I I have she's she wants to share hers, so we gotta hear yours first.
SPEAKER_03Okay, and this is where I'm actually gonna share. So our team knows more brands than I do, and that's where it's gonna truly come back to like I'm gonna spotlight them and just say how amazing they are. Because while I've always been a girl that loves fashion, I've always been a girl that thrifted, I've always been a girl that's had hand-me-downs. That's just where my family was with being a missionary family. And so we like shopping goodwill was what we did before it was cool. And so, designer, like I always gravitated towards do I like it, do I feel good in it? I don't really care what the brand is, me personally. Whereas we have a team that they are dialed in and they know brands, they know fashion, and I eat it up. That is where they're strong. And I would say that is honestly not my strength. Like when I am in our what we call like our processing areas and processing, I'm I'm not great at that. They're fabulous at that. Yeah. And so I honestly I don't know that I have one desire.
SPEAKER_05So you're a chameleon, you like all.
SPEAKER_03Well, and that maybe that comes back to also being a three. I can adapt, I can, I can adjust, I can yeah. But I want to know what yours are because I know you have one.
SPEAKER_05I know she does. Come on.
SPEAKER_04I don't have like ultra luxury because Well, we're not asking ultra luxury, we're just saying generally, who are your favorite brands? What are your favorite brands? Who are your favorite designers? I mean on any level.
SPEAKER_05I do love the nation line, Michael Starr's Goldie, Citizens of Humanity. Oh, there you go. I would say there's like your mid. I don't know. It if you were to go, I honestly I like some Walmart and members mark clothes for like affordability stuff. Such a good job. Time and true. Yeah, they got they have some good stuff.
SPEAKER_04Now I understand what you're saying. Earlier, what you what you said, it sounded like uh.
SPEAKER_03I know. I was gonna say, if you started saying like pre Paris names and stuff, I'm gonna be like, I girl, I don't know.
SPEAKER_04Well, I mean, the one she already said, I was like, I'm not sure. I know what those brands are.
SPEAKER_03So I know I'm learning, I'm learning from you. And honestly, if our processing team were sitting here right now, they'd be like, Yes, girl, yes.
SPEAKER_04Yes, exactly. I'm very much like you, Jessica, because I grew up, we grew up going to like consignment shops, thirst shops, garage sales, things like that.
SPEAKER_05It reminds me of clueless when she's like, This is an alaya, and he's like, an awutta? An awutta? I don't care.
SPEAKER_04I will shoot you. Yeah, that's what, yeah. So you care what you're dressing for. An alaya.
SPEAKER_05Now that would be awesome to have an alaya.
SPEAKER_04Still don't know what an alaya is. 30 years later. It's fine. It's fine. Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_05Well, I mean, like ultra luxury, who wouldn't want to wear like, I don't know, let's say like really nice Ralph Loren, right? Or Marc Jacobs, custom. Prada. Right.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_03We're like, we know the high ends because everyone knows. And it's really, and it's so fun. I think too, that's like the beauty in the treasure, too. Like when we see donations come through, and like women have to, there's so many places that you can choose to donate. And so for us, we consider it such an honor when somebody chooses to donate towards any of our initiatives. We also have a store in Springdale called Thrift Out, and that is serving an entirely different demographic and families that are looking to be able to purchase more for less. And so, like the average price point there is $2, and children's items are closer to a dollar. That's amazing. And so, and they're not even they're they're not, they're even maybe a little bit intimidated by the price point at Beautiful Lives. And so that's been a really beautiful way to expand the mission as well. And so, yeah, some of these brands, it's really fun to see like where they come in, the point of entry, and then kind of their journey even throughout the organization, and then seeing them bring so much joy to like that next, like the life of extending the garment and the next.
SPEAKER_05And it's better for the environment as well. I think that thrifting is it's kind of fun. It's you know, it's like a treasure hunt. And also, yeah, like you said, giving life to garments of wood because uh the fashion industry, or at least fast fashion and the environment are they're linked together. I mean, the amount of waste of fast fashion is alarming. So I like that people are getting kind of getting back to just buying, you know, those essential pieces or thrifting, and it's good for the community. And I love that you're offering, you know, children's clothes at such a low price because they grow out of it so fast. Yes. Sometimes my kids uh they don't even get a couple wears and they've already they have like growing pains one night. Yes, and then the next day they don't get anything anymore.
SPEAKER_03They're through it. I know. And as a mom of five, like I can tell you, like, it is such a gift to be able to buy used. I mean, we shoes too. Yes, shoes are so expensive. But if you were to ask me, like, what is my I this is a favorite question that I always love to ask people, like, what's your weakness, like a category-wise? Like, when you walk into a store, what can you not leave without even if you have too many of them? Shoes would probably be, I mean, I could always have another pair of shoes.
SPEAKER_05Shoes aren't a problem for me, but I don't know.
SPEAKER_03What would be what would be yours?
SPEAKER_04Mine isn't shoes either. I I do have quite a few shoes, but I'm one of those people that doesn't like to wear heels. And if I did, uh huh, it would be a problem. But because I'm not a heely kind of girl, I I I don't know. I mean, I enjoy shoes, but they're not like the thing. I would say for me, it's probably I don't even know, dresses, probably.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I'm a big dress gal. I have a lot of dresses. I actually hate jeans, and that's shocking, probably because I wear them often. That is really funny. But I actually don't like them. It's probably the mimic from the wearing them. I mean, they're okay for a time, yes, but I don't know.
SPEAKER_04Girl, we are gonna we're getting we're gonna skip it's fun now.
SPEAKER_03I love that you both have that. You can accessorize, you can drive. I mean, even today, like with the denim jacket. I mean, there's so many things that you can do. T-shirt. A dress is just one thing, right?
SPEAKER_05You don't have to worry about any other item, just like matching just the dress. Yeah. She's a statement all in her own.
SPEAKER_04It's a statement. I'm really into dopamine dressing right now. Dopamine. Okay, tell us more. What? You guys haven't heard of dopamine dressing? It's like it's like
Dopamine Dressing And Trend Hot Takes
SPEAKER_04dressing in things that make you feel good and that like give you a dopamine hitch. I've been doing the opposite for a long time. Like bright, yeah, no, you are definitely the opposite of dopamine dressing. 100%. There's nothing wrong with it. There's nothing wrong with that. It's it's like bold, bright colors, maybe some mixed patterns, some just different things. And I really I've leaned into it. I probably don't lean into it in the true way that a lot of people are because I've seen some like examples of dopamine dressing, and I'm like, that's not me. But I've really found kind of a little bit more of my style, and I like brighter colors, and I like dresses and skirts, and I love a good jean jacket. I've like always loved a good jean. People ask me, they're like, How did you find a jean jacket that's like not super long and not super soft? It's actually really hard to do. And I'm like, because I've had it for like 20 years. That's why I've I have like like three jean jackets. Maybe that's what I have too much of it. That's a staple for your face. It really is. It really is a staple, is my jean jackets. So, and I have like purses that I really purses could be. I'm not a purse person.
SPEAKER_03Okay, clutches, purses, any talk style, crossbodies.
SPEAKER_05Okay, but yeah, probably crossbodies. Yeah. Crossbodies. They're easier, they're just good to and I love a crossbody that can also go over the arm or a handle. Oh, I like three carrying options.
SPEAKER_04I just love this conversation so much.
SPEAKER_05Well, and truly, you can just you can adapt based on whatever outfit you have going. I had some questions that I wanted to do.
SPEAKER_04Yes, please ask her some questions. Let's ask her some personal questions about which is I'm going to tell, well, how about just her style preferences?
SPEAKER_05Absolutely. So you're just gonna say yay or nay. Okay. And I'm just gonna give you a clothing item, and you're just gonna tell me right away, got a reaction, what you think. Okay. Barrel jeans. Nay. Okay. Micro shorts. Nay. This one's for the guys. Okay. Flip-flops and jeans.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_05Yes? Yeah. The dogs out with jeans.
SPEAKER_01Is that the wrong answer?
SPEAKER_03No, it is not the wrong answer. It is your answer. I will say I dated a guy, and that's all he would wear would be flip-flops and jeans, and we did have to have a talk. I was like, if we're going anywhere, we're gonna have to switch this up right now. So maybe not. Okay, I like it. But sometimes I mean there's so go back to the beach conversation. There's something about like a guy who can get away with some good flip-flops and jeans. Okay, context. I like that. Yeah, in the right.
SPEAKER_04Where you live for sure matters.
SPEAKER_03I would say that's also how I shop. I'm like, okay, I can see myself with this on that one cruise with that one friend in two or three years. And that's so that's just like my life, I just create scenarios for all the things. Okay, so a high-low dress.
SPEAKER_05No. No. It's such a mixed, such a mixed, mixed bag with that one.
SPEAKER_04A couple years ago, I would have seen it. Okay, it depends.
SPEAKER_05Maybe it depends on the dress, but this one's in style again, asymmetrical top. I would have a hard time with that one.
SPEAKER_03Hard time? Yeah. Crop tops. Maybe it's because I'm a mom. I don't wear them myself. Some women look amazing. And I'm like, I like that on you. So I don't want to say nay. Because again, contextualizing it. Yes. For me personally, no.
SPEAKER_05Low rise jeans.
SPEAKER_01You have been putting her so on the spot with like the worst, worst.
SPEAKER_03So now the second guessing the barrel jeans, I'm like, I should have said yes, because I'm saying no to all of these.
SPEAKER_04No, this is what she's rage baiting you, basically. She's full on rage baiting you.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I'm a big fan of high rise right now. Okay, me too.
SPEAKER_05Okay, so honestly, just the link that middle men was the most controversial of the thing. I mean, it is.
SPEAKER_01Those are Crocs. Crocs.
SPEAKER_03Okay, are they like their traditional more of their modern style? Traditional Crocs. Okay, my kids love them. I personally would not want to be seen in public. Love them. My kids love them.
SPEAKER_04Now even better. Crocs with socks.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's like a whole other Chacos with socks when I'm like, I love the confidence.
SPEAKER_05Birken stocks, last one. Yay or nay. I had them for a time. I'll say it that way. Yeah. I don't know. I love them still. You still love them? I've worn them my whole life. Like 40 years I've been wearing Birkin stocks.
SPEAKER_04So hopefully not the same pair, but no.
SPEAKER_05No, I'm messing with you.
SPEAKER_04Oh my god. I'm rage baiting you.
SPEAKER_05Okay. So we got now. I kind of have uh an idea of your style. Based on that, you're not one of trends.
SPEAKER_03You kind of like classic timeless. I do. I like what I like. And I'm fine if it's not in trend. I will make it my own trend. Yes. And that's probably why my closet is so vast. Like I don't just flow with the trends and I don't go out with the old. I keep it if I love it.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. The the funny thing about the jeans and the the flip-flops is that I just kind of always thought guys just wore that. But my sister pointed out one time, like, what's up with that? Why aren't they flip-flops are for the pool? And then I started to notice it more. And then it then it started to like then I started to really think about it.
SPEAKER_03But they're like, there's like there's like the flip-flops with like the dollar flip-flops from Walmart with flames on them type flip-flops.
SPEAKER_02And then there's the leather flip-flops.
SPEAKER_03I feel like an elevator. That's what I was picturing when I was thinking flip-flops with jeans. Like, it's like it works.
SPEAKER_05A nicer one. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04She's thinking about flicky. Not thongs. Remember when they were called flip?
SPEAKER_05We should have done yay or nay on that. Thongs. Thongs. Yes. No comment. No comment.
SPEAKER_04Thongs that go on your feet. Yes. Is what she means. Yeah. I mean, there's a whole lot of like fashionable faux pas trends. And we've been talking on a few podcasts about how like 90s are really coming back in the world.
SPEAKER_05That's why I asked about low rise and asymmetrical terms.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know that I would say those were 90s. 90s was so much more about like 100. Okay, 2000s. Yeah, that was very much 2000s, I would say. 90s was like, I don't know. It's kind of like there's like this bleed into the early 2000s. But it's all very interesting. Fashion is watch it. Fashion should be whatever you want to make it, you know?
SPEAKER_05So as long as you have you're appropriately dressed.
SPEAKER_04I mean for the scenario. For the scenario. For where you're at. You know, if you're you're on the beach, you're not in a business suit. And if you're in the office, you're not in a swimsuit.
SPEAKER_05But if you're on a zoom call for your business on the beach, then you could mix outfits.
SPEAKER_04Then you could have a bikini on the bottom and a blazer on top.
SPEAKER_01There you go.
SPEAKER_04Absolutely. Yeah. So what let's let's jump in. We're gonna kind of close things up and wrap up. But tell us a little bit about what's Next for purpose brands for 14. Because I
Bold Lives Men’s Thrift Launch Plans
SPEAKER_04know you have kind of this really awesome thing that you've been building and working on, and it's coming this fall.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so bold lives men's rift is our next big thing, and we get comments all the time from the community from men who will come in with their wives and they'll say, like, man, if only you had a men's section, or we'll see them out in the wild to at like Bentonville First Friday, and we'll have guys stop by and be like, This is my wife's favorite place to shop. I just wish she would open something for us. And so the amount of time that we've heard that comment, we really realized like we need to respond to this. Like, this is obviously something that's longed for in our community, that's needed in our community. And it's very personal to me as well, because my husband and I, we were in that place. We were in a place where we were having kiddos early on in our marriage. We were on a tight budget ourselves. And thrifting is one thing, and thrifting can be a lot of fun. But at one point he was he was working two positions, and so our time together as a family was limited. And so we found ourselves on the weekends trying to source business attire for him when he was new in his position at Walmart. And he kept hearing, you know, if you want to be a manager one day, you've got to dress like a manager, you've got to lead like a manager. So he really wanted to really own his style and he was really leaning at like he learned different ways on YouTube to tie his ties and just so many fun things that he was learning to express through fashion. But to go and to find and we would we would dig and we would rummage and so much respect and appreciation for the thrift stores that we currently have. But it took all of the time that we had as a family to go and try to find and build his wardrobe up to something that he felt really confident in. And so we just knew like there's got to be another way to do it. And at the time, early on in our marriage, I nanied for a time and for a season, and I saw where families I saw how men in in certain households were worked through their closet. And there were times where they were, they were letting go of some items that were in mint condition. And I thought I grew up in a home where it was like men just hold on to things for years and years. And I was beginning to see like that's not true for everyone and not true for every family. Some men really do enjoy changing their closet out and even changing their style, or maybe they're changing sizes, they're going back to the gym. There's a number of reasons. But I realized there's a lot of clothing that men's men are passing on that I think a lot of men in our community would really enjoy and really benefit from. And again, goes right back into who who knows the multiplication aspect of like he gets that next job, his family then gets to propel and advance, and then his kids have opportunities they wouldn't have had, and he's now, you know, networking maybe in a group that he wouldn't have been in otherwise. It's just it opens doors and it opens opportunities. And so I can't wait to see what happens through Bold Ivesman's thrift, and it's set to open in October this fall.
SPEAKER_04That's so amazing. I love that so much. So I think about all the times that Jeff has walked through that as well and wanting to find him clothes. Like even last night we went to this event, and I was he was like, What should I wear? And I was like, I mean, just it doesn't, it's not a big deal. And then when I saw him, I was like, What are you wearing? You're like, hold on, I'll take that back. Let me know. I was like, that's an interesting choice with those jeans that are a little bit tight on you. Like, what's happening? He laughs and calls me his fashion consultant, even though I'm not super fashionable.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I have to console my husband as well.
SPEAKER_04It's very much so. I think having a space for men like that and at a at a price point that you are already already offering in beautiful lives to be able to mimic that on the men's side will be huge. And especially being in a place where there's so much business, corporate I mean, men are trying to really dress.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, and you want to dress for the job that you want. Yes.
SPEAKER_03You have to and the confidence. I mean, they feel it too, and they might express it with different words or different language, but they feel it. And they might not talk about it the same way that we do, but it's there, and so we want to come alongside that and and do what we can. I love it so much.
SPEAKER_05Me too. And before we talk about how you can, you know, where you can donate or where you can shop, we like to always ask what your favorite
Trails In NWA And How To Connect
SPEAKER_05thing about Northwest Arkansas is.
SPEAKER_03Well, I would say lately I've been getting back into running, and so I would say all of the trails or the options that I've had to go and just get outside. I love that area.
SPEAKER_04I love that. We've had a lot of guests recently who have said different things than people, which is is refreshing. Because it's easy to say the people in the community because it's a really great place to be able to do that.
SPEAKER_01I would say, I mean, yeah, that would be a lot of people.
SPEAKER_05No, no, no, you don't have to say that. I like to run because then I don't have to talk to anybody. I'm kidding. Yeah, pop those AirPods in. I'm kidding. I don't like talking to people. You're not kidding, though. She's not kidding. She's no, I'm not kidding.
SPEAKER_04She's not she's not a super, you know, person that wants to be the first person. If you talk to her first, she will for sure talk to you, but she's not, she's not gonna initiate it.
SPEAKER_05Well, when I'm running, that's my especially when you're running. That's my time to do it. Just like the reset, the all of it process, yes, or audiobook or music.
SPEAKER_04I love the running for you guys. I love that for you.
SPEAKER_05Maybe I'll see you on the train.
SPEAKER_01I know. Pass you. I know. You probably will. Oh no, I meant high five you on the way. No, you probably won't. No, no, no. I've been working on my times, but I'm not nearly. I was like, I was like, no, no, it's gonna high five you and then pass it. I know, bye bye. You go so many waves.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I meant a little wave, a little friendly high five, a little like you got this girl. No, I would have liked it even better if you were like, and all pass you. Just let that land. Yeah, just see how they're like, wait a second.
SPEAKER_04Like we start racing in a very different way than how beginning.
SPEAKER_03I've been pretty confident about my times. And then I had a friend that just recently got into running and I saw her, and I we were at running a race, and I was like, How are you doing on your times? And then she told me hers. And I was like, Oh, okay. You're like, oh, gotta go by. Yeah, yeah, see you, see you later.
SPEAKER_05Be on the trail. You know what? I hurt my knee that morning. I didn't stretch up well. Yeah, five kids, you know.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_01No, I have big goals. I'm excited to keep training. So I love it.
SPEAKER_04Well, we've really loved having you on the show. Tell us a little bit about how people can reach out, how where they can find you online, and if they want to come donate. Just tell them all the things and what and we'll put some of this in the show notes, of course. But that'd be great.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so you can find PurposeBrains414 across most social media platforms Instagram, Facebook. We have a website and then LinkedIn, and then same thing for bold lives, same thing for beautiful lives, same thing for thrift out. We are starting to venture into the world of TikTok, and so thrift out is already rocking and rolling over there in the TikTok world, and so we're excited to get all the other initiatives moved over to TikTok. And and then, as far as me personally, you can find me on LinkedIn and out in the community. I absolutely love to network. I I don't mean a stranger. We could go to coffee and just dive in.
SPEAKER_05This is how you and Danielle connected. Me thrive basically.
SPEAKER_03I love it. I love going out in public and I will see people that I know, and I'm like, my heart is so happy.
SPEAKER_04I can't, I don't know that I could even remember how we first met. I was trying to remember maybe Ray Lana. Maybe maybe I don't know. I cannot at all.
SPEAKER_05I do want to thank you again in Beautiful Lives for dressing us for Binville Fashion Week. You looked fabulous.
SPEAKER_04And thank you for dressing us for Peekaboo May 2026 cover.
SPEAKER_03Well, thank you. I mean, it was an honor to get to come alongside and to be a part of that. And as far as our community donating or getting involved, we're always accepting amazing volunteers. We have a lot of volunteer opportunities. Our community can donate across all of our locations. So you can choose to donate at any Beautiful Lives location or our Thrift Out location, and you can donate. We are accepting, like actively accepting men's donations. Okay, I was gonna ask that if Beautiful Lives Been. We're already curating. Okay. Yep, you can donate donate at any location. We have an entire system on the back end of how it's all getting coordinated and prepared. That's so fantastic.
SPEAKER_05Thank you for coming in. Thank you for being here.
SPEAKER_03Thank you so much.
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